<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Help with Enochian Tablets]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Hi all,</p>
<p dir="auto">Just spent SEVERAL weeks painstakingly constructing Enochian Tablets based on the patterns in Liber Chanokh.</p>
<p dir="auto">However, now looking around at other sources (Duquette's new book, Ben Rowe's material, Donald Tyson) I see several different patterns for the tables, a discussion of the Tabula Rescensa of Raphael, etc. I am immensely irritated that I may have wasted my time on an incorrect patterning of the Tables.</p>
<p dir="auto">My question is, which of the Table layouts is considered the most accurate? Is the one in Chanokh viable?</p>
<p dir="auto">Tabula Rescensa or no?</p>
<p dir="auto">Is it advised to use the elemental attributes of the G.D., or a different scheme of elemental attributes?</p>
<p dir="auto">Should they be formed into a Great Table, or left split up as in the G.D.?</p>
<p dir="auto">Help, my head hurts!!</p>
]]></description><link>https://thelema.org/forum/topic/15823/help-with-enochian-tablets</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 00:35:00 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://thelema.org/forum/topic/15823.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:28:16 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Help with Enochian Tablets on Wed, 12 Jan 2011 05:43:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Keep in mind when looking at Golden Dawn material or Liber Chanokh that what they present isn't just "Enochian." The Golden Dawn's Concourse of the Forces syncs up all (and I mean ALL) of the magic that comprises the Golden Dawn system. A lot of people criticize it for not being "true Enochian" without realizing the key fact that it really isn't just Enochian.<br />
For a good study of actual ENochian magic, I enjoyed Geoffrey James' book The Enochian Magick of Dr. John Dee.</p>
<p dir="auto">If you want to go with the more sycretized version, Liber Chanokh is fine.</p>
]]></description><link>https://thelema.org/forum/post/81400</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://thelema.org/forum/post/81400</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[AEternitas1]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 05:43:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Help with Enochian Tablets on Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:50:32 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Nice. I do want to make sure I have the starting map right, though.</p>
<p dir="auto">Does anybody know of any online or printed graphics that show the correct Tabula Resenca tables with the correct elemental (pyramidal) attributes?  <img src="https://thelema.org/forum/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f600.png?v=b470f3dfed9" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--grinning" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":grinning:" alt="😀" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://thelema.org/forum/post/81397</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://thelema.org/forum/post/81397</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cygnus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:50:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Help with Enochian Tablets on Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:31:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Great - so basically I have two options, "traditionalist" which is reforming a Tabula Resenca Great Table w/o pyramids, or making individual elemental tablets / tablet of union GD style, with Tabula Resenca lettering and whatever pyramid attributions seem most appropriate.</p>
<p dir="auto">IF working with the Tabula Resenca w/o pyramids, does this mean that a lot of the ceremonial work no longer has a "hook"? I.e. I'm not calling up each individual letter with the pentagrams and hexagrams for the GD attributions, I'm just skrying the letter itself?</p>
<p dir="auto">Or should I just make both versions?</p>
<p dir="auto">Confusing stuff!</p>
]]></description><link>https://thelema.org/forum/post/81394</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://thelema.org/forum/post/81394</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cygnus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:31:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Help with Enochian Tablets on Tue, 11 Jan 2011 04:19:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">@Frater Aster Lux said</p>
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<p dir="auto">"Regarding the sephirotic cavalry cross of each lesser angle, why is it that Kether is attributed to Jupiter/Fortune, Chokma/2 to Mercury/The Magus, and so on? This leaves the last few squares without any planet or trump corresponding, and I was wondering if there was any official GD explanation?"</p>
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<p dir="auto">It's complicated - and, again, it's all Mathers. You can read about it fully in Regardie's original G.D.</p>
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<p dir="auto">"In the section of the Golden Dawn that discusses Enochian Magic, Regardie only offers a vague reasoning behind this and only devotes a short paragraph to the subject. Other than that I have found no mention of why."</p>
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<p dir="auto">Yes, only vague reasoning was ever given <img src="https://thelema.org/forum/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f600.png?v=b470f3dfed9" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--grinning" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":grinning:" alt="😀" /> It's not a well-developed doctrine.</p>
]]></description><link>https://thelema.org/forum/post/81384</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://thelema.org/forum/post/81384</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Eshelman]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 04:19:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Help with Enochian Tablets on Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:52:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/forum/user/cygnus" aria-label="Profile: Cygnus">@<bdi>Cygnus</bdi></a> said</p>
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<p dir="auto">"So if I use the lettering as in Rescensa and the elemental/zodiac patterns as in Chanokh, I should be good? (I mean specifically the elemental/zodiac/planetary attributions of the side of each pyramid - I already made them in this form)."</p>
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<p dir="auto">My memory is that this is correct, yes.</p>
<p dir="auto">Except, please understand that this isn't Enochian. The pyramid idea is entirely a Golden Dawn (Mathers) invention. This isn't to say anything against it, actually - just to clarify that it is in no way a component of Enochian as received by Dee/Kelly from their transmitting angels.</p>
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<p dir="auto">"And Great Table or individual - depends on what? <img src="https://thelema.org/forum/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=b470f3dfed9" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" />"</p>
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<p dir="auto">Context, among other things.</p>
]]></description><link>https://thelema.org/forum/post/81383</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://thelema.org/forum/post/81383</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Eshelman]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:52:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Help with Enochian Tablets on Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:35:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Great, thanks Jim.</p>
<p dir="auto">So if I use the lettering as in Rescensa and the elemental/zodiac patterns as in Chanokh, I should be good? (I mean specifically the elemental/zodiac/planetary attributions of the side of each pyramid - I already made them in this form).</p>
<p dir="auto">I notice, for instance, there is a different elemental patterning in the back of Duquette's book than the one in Chanokh.</p>
<p dir="auto">And Great Table or individual - depends on what? <img src="https://thelema.org/forum/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=b470f3dfed9" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /></p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks for your help!</p>
]]></description><link>https://thelema.org/forum/post/81381</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://thelema.org/forum/post/81381</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cygnus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:35:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Help with Enochian Tablets on Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:28:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/forum/user/cygnus" aria-label="Profile: Cygnus">@<bdi>Cygnus</bdi></a> said</p>
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<p dir="auto">"Just spent SEVERAL weeks painstakingly constructing Enochian Tablets based on the patterns in Liber Chanokh.</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">However, now looking around at other sources (Duquette's new book, Ben Rowe's material, Donald Tyson) I see several different patterns for the tables, a discussion of the Tabula Rescensa of Raphael, etc. I am immensely irritated that I may have wasted my time on an incorrect patterning of the Tables.</p>
<p dir="auto">My question is, which of the Table layouts is considered the most accurate? Is the one in Chanokh viable? "</p>
<p dir="auto">No. It's just a variant of the Golden Dawn hodge-podge.</p>
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<p dir="auto">"Tabula Rescensa or no?"</p>
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<p dir="auto">This is the version that Temple of Thelema fully endorses. It is the version that came at the end - after all the methods and patterns and forms etc. were dictated and the system was delivered - Raphael showed up and said, more or less, "Here, these are the real tablets."</p>
<p dir="auto">You can find them online here: <a href="http://aumha.org/arcane/enoch.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">aumha.org/arcane/enoch.htm</a> - Don't forget to download and install the Enochian fonts TTF on that page before viewing the tablets.</p>
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<p dir="auto">"Is it advised to use the elemental attributes of the G.D., or a different scheme of elemental attributes?"</p>
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<p dir="auto">You mean for the basic tablets and their quarters? The GD had that right.</p>
<p dir="auto">I don't recommend, though, that you make them in the Pyramid form - at least initially. That is for very specific work, not the general work. However: As thou wilt.</p>
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<p dir="auto">"Should they be formed into a Great Table, or left split up as in the G.D.?"</p>
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<p dir="auto">Either, depending.</p>
]]></description><link>https://thelema.org/forum/post/81380</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://thelema.org/forum/post/81380</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Eshelman]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:28:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Help with Enochian Tablets on Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:12:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Thanks - what about elemental attributions? Where can I find the correct elemental attributions for the Tabula Resenca - if they should be used at all?</p>
]]></description><link>https://thelema.org/forum/post/81379</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://thelema.org/forum/post/81379</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cygnus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:12:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Help with Enochian Tablets on Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:10:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Tabula Rescensa is the correct version.</p>
]]></description><link>https://thelema.org/forum/post/81378</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://thelema.org/forum/post/81378</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[TheSilent1]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:10:51 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>