Revelations
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93, All!
Would greatly appreciate anyone's opinion on the following:I didn't grow up Christian at all, so basically the first place I heard about the book of Revelations is from studying Thelema
Obviously there's a lot of references to the book of Revelations in The Book of the Law, and I heard that Enochian Magick also has a lot to do with it,too. Would it be beneficial for me to get a copy of Revelations and read it through so I can get the references better?
Obviously just looking for opinions on the matter.
Thanks All, 93s!
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Aside from helping you to understand references better, I'd heartily recommend reading it for its own sake. By virtue of not having a childhood imprinting of Christianity, I have a feeling you might be in a very good position to allow the symbolic language to talk directly to your subconscious.
I would recommend finding a good translation and getting to know it first before reading any introductions or analyses by the translator. Because it's so full of wild symbolism, there will probably be a desire to get somebody else to give you a clue as to what's going on. From my experience, very very very few of the commentators write about it from an initiated viewpoint and thus miss the actual purpose of the document. 2000 years of Christian mainstreaming has veiled the original import. Relate the symbolism to the tree of life, astrology, and numerology and you'll have a much better grounding than what you'll get from a Christian scholar trying to match it to the life of Jesus myth.
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The Book of Revelation's (John's Apocalypse) is arguably the single most influential work impacting magick in the last few thousand years. Yes, be familiar with it.
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Does anyone know of anything good written about the esoteric meaning of revelation that I can find online? One thing that caught my attention when I used to read the bible was that Christ in the last chapter of revelation called himself the bright morning star . The bright morning star is also mentioned in Isaiah ch. 14 as being Lucifer "son of the dawn". I wonder when the revelation book was really written, do you think it was written as long ago as they say or perhaps it may have been written closer to the 13th or 14th century?
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@Takamba said
"I think you will find this interesting: www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCwQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgnosticteachings.org%2Fcourses%2Fbook-of-revelation.html&ei=fbOoVOLiHY6RyASX64KoAw&usg=AFQjCNGxXPRxsnWJHZj2t6oBZHouDKkcIQ&sig2=FCuFx6unj3oaTax5_48FNg"
cool , thanks.
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@raven27 said
"I wonder when the revelation book was really written, do you think it was written as long ago as they say or perhaps it may have been written closer to the 13th or 14th century?"
Scriptural analysis actually suggests that it was probably written before the current four gospels. Beyond that, we start getting into scholarly debates, but there are rather convincing arguments that it may actually be the earliest of the New Testament works or, if the source material of the Pauline Epistles is earlier, then they were heavily edited and combined into the versions we now know during the first half of the second century CE.
Either way, the development of the Jesus Myth begins to make much more sense when we realize that documents like John's Apocalypse were not only common during the first century CE, they all speak of a coming Messiah, or Christ, who was only much later written back into the history books by more literal-minded writers of the second and third centuries.
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Apocalypse unsealed. Get a copy of that, worth a read. The bible as a whole should be part of your reading list