Real lovers
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Might it be something that can't really be defined? Definition is close to restriction, and love seems to impyl non-restriction and constant change.
Yes, I know that's not helpful, but nobody else has commented, so I thought I'd say something.
Edward
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Thanks, Edward.
I was thinking the same thing.
Define "Real".
Define "Love".
Define Real love as opposed to ???
At the moment you love, isn't it real?
What is fake love, phony love, just lust, just affection, just a mistaken identity? Because you didn't know yourself? Because you thought the person acted/reacted differently than you assumed? You never really knew him/her?
Perhaps we can do the negative thing.
What is surely NOT true love?
In L.V.X.,
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I know of conditional and unconditional love between people. Conditional love can have various standards to meet in order to get another's live. Like one should do X if they love this person.
Unconditional love is when people accept people for who they are in the here and now and place no conditions on that love.
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You've asked a question that - as asked - as far more a sociological and psychological question than anything else. I don't know if that's how you intended it, but that's how it came out.
I mean that in contrast to, say, a philosophical discussion about love per se.
Qabalah is astonishingly clear on the point. Love is unity. (That's it!) 13 = 13. That one equation has solved every philosophical obscurity about love I've encountered in the last 30 years or so. - But, as I said, that doesn't seem to be the level at which you're aiming.
To get admittedly a little artificial, there is a rule of thumb that I think has a lot of merit. Look at whether people "click" or "unite" on each of four levels: physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual. Regardless of which ones "click," just look at the number olf levels of "click." I've found that 1-level relationships get boring so fast I barely notice them, 2-level relationships are the usual baseline of where we know people, 3-level relationships get damn interesting and are very much worth pursuing, and 4-level ones - that is, people who "connect" physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually - are treasures not to be missed nor lightly reliquished.
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@Chris Hanlon said
"Thanks, Edward.
I was thinking the same thing.
Define "Real".
Define "Love".
Define Real love as opposed to ???
At the moment you love, isn't it real?
What is fake love, phony love,======
phony love is the love of the animal kingdom; mechanical without choice and transitory only. -
gery456:
"phony love is the love of the animal kingdom; mechanical without choice and transitory only."
Then Real love has to the be the love of the ??? kingdom, volitional with choice and eternal always. Yes?
This is possible as you are human and live in duality?
Can it be there is no real love, and no false love, there is only the process of loving, beginning and ending?
In L.V.X.,
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@Jim Eshelman said
" 4-level ones - that is, people who "connect" physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually - are treasures not to be missed nor lightly reliquished."
Indeed.
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Let us not forget what the Prince Priest has said:
"Also, take your fill and will of love as ye will, when, where and with whom ye will! But always unto me." Liber L. I:51
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"Nor let the fools mistake love; for there are love and love. There is the dove, and there is the serpent. Choose ye well! He, my prophet, hath chosen, knowing the law of the fortress, and the great mystery of the House of God."
May I stretch the imagination and say that he chose the serpent, and that the law of the fortress, in one fashion, is natural/divine law. It is the way of the world.
This is love. As real as it gets. And nothing! can unite the divided but love.
93, 93/93
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Dion Fortune has a book called The Esoteric Philosophy of Love and Marriage I believe that is the correct title, it is packed away in a box right now. However, she examines, closley, what Jim is talking about with the four levels. Fotune also asserts that there are people that we have had such strong connections with from the past, that once they enter our lives and we enter theirs, all other connections will be severed in favor of that one strong one. I tend to see it like a positive ion being pulled from a negative ion with a weaker charge to a negative one with a stronger charge. I believe....that she refered to it as "cosmic" partnership. When the Love between the two is benficial to all, and they do some type of work together.