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What signs have you taken to be authentic signals that you are: a) ready join an initiatory order. b) receiving confirmation that your initiation is "working". c) ready to take the next step on your initiatory path?
Please (without spilling any secret beans, of course!) tell where you found these signs. Albeit from dreams, coincidences, numbers or words appearing frequently, ect...
I'm fascinated with the vocabularies that we develop with our unconscious (defined as "not-consciousness", eventually experienced directly through our Holy Guardian Angel, IMO) and how our experiences are often similar, although the syntax is often suited to fit the particular person's personality or state of consciousness.
The advantageous thing about learning a traditional system such as astrology, qabalah, or the tarot is that more of these signals from the unconscious tend to be decipherable by others on with similar roots in those systems.
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@Marc Free said
"My best suggestion here would be to meditate on Key XXI and Key VIII to see what comes up in conjunction with your ideas of advancement."
To avoid confusion: By "Key VIII" I'm pretty sure Marc means Atu XI.
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@Marc Free said
"This generally manifests in one of two ways. Either we experience a release and movement with the currents of livingness into a more fulfilling sense of calm and peaceful acceptance of the conditions and reality of our existence or more often than not it comes as a shitstorm (LOL!!!) where we discover that we somehow seem to have opened a pandora's box of unavoidable challenges that confront us at every turn. These "problems" are really developmental turbulence that result directly from our attachments to the "false knowledge" of our previous existence that are now contradictory to the state of beingness towards we aspiring to move.
"Thanks Marc for such a thorough reply. I think this is a great topic, the answers to which I feel a great many aspirants seeking initiation would benefit from.
You speak of the increase in reproductive energy being responsible for the amplification of both good and bad patterns. This was communicated to me prior to initiation and it wasn't until I experienced the "shitstorm" that I fully understood what that meant or how it would manifest in my life. What I can say is that when the shit started to fly I immediately asked myself "Good Lord what have I done?" (I should have listened!!)
I'll use the analogy of a bowl of clear water with barely visible sediment laying on the bottom. The process of initiation shakes the bowl causing the sediment to disperse throughout the water making the sediment clearly visible. I soon realized that the water wasn't as clean as I would have liked to have thought. I was now forced to deal with what was for so long so easily ignored. These negative habit patterns can easily get out of hand if not treated. Now I understand why Regardie so srongly advised that those seeking initiation first undergo some form of phsycotherapy.I also feel like there was a battle of sorts taking place between the old self with it's desires and delusions and the new person that I took an oath to become. You attribute this to "developmental turbulence" and any elaboration on that would be greatly appreciated.
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@Brycifer said
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What signs have you taken to be authentic signals that you are: a) ready join an initiatory order. b) receiving confirmation that your initiation is "working". c) ready to take the next step on your initiatory path?"
Yo! Brycifer!
(Please don't let my cheesy answers detract from the excellent discussion that has unfolded)
These are the most authentic (albeit mundane) signals I've encountered:
A.) You actually show up for the ceremony (and don't run away in the middle)!
B.) You are able to do the work immediately in front of you.
C.) You've completed the work required to advance and actually show up for the ceremony (and don't run away in the middle)!
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you said "What signs have you taken to be authentic signals that you are: a) ready join an initiatory order. b) receiving confirmation that your initiation is "working". c) ready to take the next step on your initiatory path?"
my dream started out...on a side walk at night...My husband and I were talking and he cut this big tree down....then directed me to pull out the root...he left and I began pulling...ending up on the other side of the street with the root in hand ..but still not out....as I rested on the side of the street...people passed by...with friendly greetings...and said they would see me soon...seems they were all on there way to a big block party...so I continued to pull at the root...
I take the tree to represent knowllege...I figure that my husband was telling me o.k....now forget what you think you know and get to the root of it.Go deeper...
and so that is just what I am working towards
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My journey since age four when the dreams began has brought me to the realization of just who I am. The paradigms have been
fascinating. I am new to Thelema , but walking "The Pathway Of The Initiate"
as do I in many persuasions. My spirit is older than star-dust. My video is
on youtube. I speak from the heart. My goal is to stop war and prevent the deployment of nukes, end world hunger,poverty,tears. I Am the harbinger of
truth,justice and love. Thank you for the opportunity to say hello and send
affection your way. Namaste'
The Initiate - ADONAI 777*(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9107/tetramy8.jpg)