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Reciting Liber LXV

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  • V Vod-Vil

    Couple of quick questions on chapter 1 of Liber LXV from "The holy books of thelema".

    In chapter 1,the third line down it reads:
    "It is now is the hour"

    Is this a typo?It doesnt sound right.

    And question 2
    When you recite the name V.V.V.V.V.,do you say it "Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee" or do you say it without the abbreviation.

    Thank you for the help.

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    Andie
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    I say, "Vee Vee Vee Vee Vee" but I always feel really stupid.

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    • V Vod-Vil

      Couple of quick questions on chapter 1 of Liber LXV from "The holy books of thelema".

      In chapter 1,the third line down it reads:
      "It is now is the hour"

      Is this a typo?It doesnt sound right.

      And question 2
      When you recite the name V.V.V.V.V.,do you say it "Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee" or do you say it without the abbreviation.

      Thank you for the help.

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      Jim Eshelman
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      @Vod-Vil said

      "Couple of quick questions on chapter 1 of Liber LXV from "The holy books of thelema".

      In chapter 1,the third line down it reads:
      "It is now is the hour"

      Is this a typo?It doesnt sound right."

      Not a typo, though one of the best Thelemic scholars known to me made the same mistake. It's a little archaic - but it's what is intended, and matches the scansion.

      It might make more sense if you first think of it as, "Right now is the hour." That might slide your mind over into understanding the syntax. Or: "It is now that is the hour." But the extra word isn't needed for it to be correct.

      "When you recite the name V.V.V.V.V.,do you say it "Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee" or do you say it without the abbreviation."

      "Vee Vee Vee Vee Vee."

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      • V Vod-Vil

        Couple of quick questions on chapter 1 of Liber LXV from "The holy books of thelema".

        In chapter 1,the third line down it reads:
        "It is now is the hour"

        Is this a typo?It doesnt sound right.

        And question 2
        When you recite the name V.V.V.V.V.,do you say it "Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee" or do you say it without the abbreviation.

        Thank you for the help.

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        Draco Magnus
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        BTW, anyone notice that V from "V for Vendetta" has the exact same motto as A.C. did?

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        • V Vod-Vil

          Couple of quick questions on chapter 1 of Liber LXV from "The holy books of thelema".

          In chapter 1,the third line down it reads:
          "It is now is the hour"

          Is this a typo?It doesnt sound right.

          And question 2
          When you recite the name V.V.V.V.V.,do you say it "Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee" or do you say it without the abbreviation.

          Thank you for the help.

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          gmugmble
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          @Vod-Vil said

          "
          "It is now is the hour"

          Is this a typo?It doesnt sound right.

          "

          Think of it as "It is now that is the hour," (which is what it is, but with the word "that" omitted). It's a construction called a cleft sentence, if you like fancy terms. Read it with emphasis on the word "now" and mentally supply the word "that", and it with a little practice you can even convince yourself that it sounds okay 😄

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          • V Vod-Vil

            Couple of quick questions on chapter 1 of Liber LXV from "The holy books of thelema".

            In chapter 1,the third line down it reads:
            "It is now is the hour"

            Is this a typo?It doesnt sound right.

            And question 2
            When you recite the name V.V.V.V.V.,do you say it "Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee" or do you say it without the abbreviation.

            Thank you for the help.

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            gmugmble
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            @Draco Magnus said

            "BTW, anyone notice that V from "V for Vendetta" has the exact same motto as A.C. did?"

            Crowley didn't invent the phrase, though its origin is apparently unknown. There is even (and I should know better by now than to be surprised by such things, but I am surprised anyway) an article on the phrase in Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi_veri_universum_vivus_vici

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            • V Vod-Vil

              Couple of quick questions on chapter 1 of Liber LXV from "The holy books of thelema".

              In chapter 1,the third line down it reads:
              "It is now is the hour"

              Is this a typo?It doesnt sound right.

              And question 2
              When you recite the name V.V.V.V.V.,do you say it "Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee" or do you say it without the abbreviation.

              Thank you for the help.

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              Michaeljwjr
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              @gmugmble said

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              @Draco Magnus said
              "BTW, anyone notice that V from "V for Vendetta" has the exact same motto as A.C. did?"

              Crowley didn't invent the phrase, though its origin is apparently unknown. There is even (and I should know better by now than to be surprised by such things, but I am surprised anyway) an article on the phrase in Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi_veri_universum_vivus_vici"

              Thank you for the link. It is helpful.

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              • V Vod-Vil

                Couple of quick questions on chapter 1 of Liber LXV from "The holy books of thelema".

                In chapter 1,the third line down it reads:
                "It is now is the hour"

                Is this a typo?It doesnt sound right.

                And question 2
                When you recite the name V.V.V.V.V.,do you say it "Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee" or do you say it without the abbreviation.

                Thank you for the help.

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                Draco Magnus
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                "Crowley didn't invent the phrase, though its origin is apparently unknown. There is even (and I should know better by now than to be surprised by such things, but I am surprised anyway) an article on the phrase in Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi_veri_universum_vivus_vici"

                Clearly, and he didn't invent Latin, either. I found though, that the film character possessed a Thelemic point of view (IMO), especially regarding implementing Thelemic ideas in a social frame. Viva la revolucion

                Thanks for the link.

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                • V Vod-Vil

                  Couple of quick questions on chapter 1 of Liber LXV from "The holy books of thelema".

                  In chapter 1,the third line down it reads:
                  "It is now is the hour"

                  Is this a typo?It doesnt sound right.

                  And question 2
                  When you recite the name V.V.V.V.V.,do you say it "Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee" or do you say it without the abbreviation.

                  Thank you for the help.

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                  Rey De Lupos
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                  Draco Magnus wrote:

                  "
                  I found though, that the film character possessed a Thelemic point of view (IMO), especially regarding implementing Thelemic ideas in a social frame. Viva la revolucion "

                  Yes, I found the character of V very thelemic in his approach to his life, his Work and his destiny. I found the message of V to be inherently one of Victory and also of sacrifice -- as if nailed [vau] cross at five points of illuminated spirit. Vox Clara!

                  And something for the Vox Populi:

                  www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW6HbZXI9Y0

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                  • V Vod-Vil

                    Couple of quick questions on chapter 1 of Liber LXV from "The holy books of thelema".

                    In chapter 1,the third line down it reads:
                    "It is now is the hour"

                    Is this a typo?It doesnt sound right.

                    And question 2
                    When you recite the name V.V.V.V.V.,do you say it "Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee" or do you say it without the abbreviation.

                    Thank you for the help.

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                    Michaeljwjr
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                    Wanted to add this to the V links. After Rey posted about V and thelema I saw this and made the connection.

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                    • V Vod-Vil

                      Couple of quick questions on chapter 1 of Liber LXV from "The holy books of thelema".

                      In chapter 1,the third line down it reads:
                      "It is now is the hour"

                      Is this a typo?It doesnt sound right.

                      And question 2
                      When you recite the name V.V.V.V.V.,do you say it "Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee,Vee" or do you say it without the abbreviation.

                      Thank you for the help.

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                      Malaclypse
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                      @Draco Magnus said

                      "BTW, anyone notice that V from "V for Vendetta" has the exact same motto as A.C. did?"

                      Yes! I did! proud

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