Sorcerer of Nazareth
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From Liber Aleph:
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DE MAGO ARABICO MOHAMMED."Yet, because He arose in the Time of the greatest possible Corruption and Darkness, when every Civilization and Every Religion had fallen into Ruin, by the malice of the great Sorcerer of Nazareth."
Who is the Sorcerer of Nazareth? I understand that the most obvious answer is Jesus, but then I would ask if it is true that the O.T.O considers itself in true apostolic succession of the students of Jesus?
I have been studying the Gospels lately, focusing on the violent words of Christ. I am also skeptical of Paul and his "pussy-fication" of Jesus. I turn to Revelation and it portrays an image of a violent warlike Jesus who returns to slay and destroy, to bring justice.I understand that the historicity of Jesus is questionable; that he may be a conglomerate figure consisting of various myths and actual person's (such as jesus ben panthera). So, in all my meandering, I'm wondering what people think this verse from liber aleph is saying, and what crowley thought concerning Christ.
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@BNNHKDSH said
"From Liber Aleph:
Section-
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DE MAGO ARABICO MOHAMMED."Yet, because He arose in the Time of the greatest possible Corruption and Darkness, when every Civilization and Every Religion had fallen into Ruin, by the malice of the great Sorcerer of Nazareth."
Who is the Sorcerer of Nazareth? I understand that the most obvious answer is Jesus, but then I would ask if it is true that the O.T.O considers itself in true apostolic succession of the students of Jesus?
I have been studying the Gospels lately, focusing on the violent words of Christ. I am also skeptical of Paul and his "pussy-fication" of Jesus. I turn to Revelation and it portrays an image of a violent warlike Jesus who returns to slay and destroy, to bring justice.I understand that the historicity of Jesus is questionable; that he may be a conglomerate figure consisting of various myths and actual person's (such as jesus ben panthera). So, in all my meandering, I'm wondering what people think this verse from liber aleph is saying, and what crowley thought concerning Christ."
This isnt an OTO document, and I did not know OTO claimed to be in the apostolic succession of the students of Jesus in the first place... perhaps Templar, perhaps Illuminati, but students of Jesus?
For a good take on Revelation, you should get D.H. Lawrence's 'Apocalypse.'
I think its pretty obvious that, in your quotation, Crowley is referring to Muhammed arising in a time of corruption which Crowley is blaming on Christianity... most likely the spread of the church and crap like that.
IAO131
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Crowley's views on Jesus were explored in fair detail in a work he originally titled The Gospel According to St. Bernard Shaw, which was eventually published as Crowley on Christ. IMHO it's one of the most interesting things he ever wrote.
As to historicity, you may find the following astrological discussion of interest: olunars.net/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=110
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Jim, that was utterly amazing. There's some people at a certain "event" I'm tempted to show this to this weekend but alas it may go over their heads. I do have two questions off topic. One, can you run your own natal chart on Solunars? Two, forgive my ignorance, but who is Jake Winslow, I can't get over his quote.
Thanks,
Mike
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@Nudor said
"I do have two questions off topic. One, can you run your own natal chart on Solunars? Two, forgive my ignorance, but who is Jake Winslow, I can't get over his quote."
You can't run your own chart on the site - there's no calculation tool - but you can post in the Discuss Your Chart sub-forum and I'll calculate and post your chart if you are interested in discussing it as a public exercise.
Jake Winslow is a fictional character in a "survey" in The Onion.
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@Nudor said
"... can you run your own natal chart on Solunars?"
You can calculate charts (including Sidereal) at www.astro.com. It's a commercial site, and they hope to entice you to buy something, but you don't have to. Look for a link that says "Free Horoscopes" and then a link that says "Extended chart selection."
(I hope this post isn't too much like advertising; if it is, my feelings won't be hurt if the admins delete it. I have no connection, financial or otherwise, with the company that runs the site.)
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@gmugmble said
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@Nudor said
"... can you run your own natal chart on Solunars?"You can calculate charts (including Sidereal) at www.astro.com. It's a commercial site, and they hope to entice you to buy something, but you don't have to. Look for a link that says "Free Horoscopes" and then a link that says "Extended chart selection."
(I hope this post isn't too much like advertising; if it is, my feelings won't be hurt if the admins delete it. I have no connection, financial or otherwise, with the company that runs the site.)"
Ive used astro.com for free and it still works great. Sign up for an account and do the 'personal profile' etc. Its all free and you can add all your friends and scare them with your knowledge.
IAO131
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@BNNHKDSH said
"From Liber Aleph:
Section-
{Beta }{upsilon }
DE MAGO ARABICO MOHAMMED."Yet, because He arose in the Time of the greatest possible Corruption and Darkness, when every Civilization and Every Religion had fallen into Ruin, by the malice of the great Sorcerer of Nazareth."
Who is the Sorcerer of Nazareth? I understand that the most obvious answer is Jesus, but then I would ask if it is true that the O.T.O considers itself in true apostolic succession of the students of Jesus?
I have been studying the Gospels lately, focusing on the violent words of Christ. I am also skeptical of Paul and his "pussy-fication" of Jesus. I turn to Revelation and it portrays an image of a violent warlike Jesus who returns to slay and destroy, to bring justice.I understand that the historicity of Jesus is questionable; that he may be a conglomerate figure consisting of various myths and actual person's (such as jesus ben panthera). So, in all my meandering, I'm wondering what people think this verse from liber aleph is saying, and what crowley thought concerning Christ."
Crowley does not mean Jesus, but the false consciousness of Jesus that had arisen from the Catholic Church, which MOHAMMED reacted against and Luther attempted to rectify.