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Bahlasti Ompehda?

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  • O Ophion280

    What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean? Is it a banishing of sorts like "apo pantos kakodeamonos" or just a general curse?

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    kuniggety
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    I'm curious as to the exact meaning of the words too. I do believe it is meant as a curse but what the exact words mean are a mystery to me.

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    • O Ophion280

      What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean? Is it a banishing of sorts like "apo pantos kakodeamonos" or just a general curse?

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      Jim Eshelman
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      They are words that originated in Liber Legis, and have no prior meaning. They aren't from any recognizable language. They appear unique to that one occurence in CCXX 3:54. Any meaning assigned is someone's interpretation.

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      • O Ophion280

        What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean? Is it a banishing of sorts like "apo pantos kakodeamonos" or just a general curse?

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        Jim Eshelman
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        Having written the above, here is an excerpt from one of my diaries from the mid-1990s.

        Bahlasti - BAHLAShTY [Hebrew] - is 358, Messiah and all the rest (or, without the Heh, 353 = Hermes).

        Ompehda - OMPHDA [Hebrew] - is 200, the Sun! These two fierce exclamations are thus common elements of Tiphereth. They represent the poewr of the Pentagram (358) and the Life, Love, Liberty, and Light of Sol (200). It is with this singular Glory that what we here represent as Horus ravages the desecrated husks of prior religions.

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        • O Ophion280

          What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean? Is it a banishing of sorts like "apo pantos kakodeamonos" or just a general curse?

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          Steven Cranmer
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          From the context of their appearance in Liber Legis, they're spittle-filled curse words... 😄

          "Bahlasti" kind of sounds like the English words "blast" (is this still a British semi-curse word? or just pirate cliche?) and/or "blasphemy." The Greek root-word that sounds like "blast" means to spurt or shoot forth; see, e.g., the etymology of biological words blastocyst, blastomere, etc... "I blast debris on your crapulous creeds?"

          "Ompehda" brings to mind the Greek "Omphalos" (navel or central point). When one looks into the Greek etymology, though, "omphe" is the root for divine speech or an oracle. A voice "spurting forth" from the beyond?

          Crowley thought that "Ompehda" sounded like an explosion...

          Jim's interesting gematria of 200 also recalls the "crapulous creeds" alliteration in this verse: CC = 200 in Roman numerals.

          Steve

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          • O Ophion280

            What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean? Is it a banishing of sorts like "apo pantos kakodeamonos" or just a general curse?

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            Rey De Lupos
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            Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

            "What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean?"

            I have always used it as an all inclusive banishing or summoning as the intention might be. These to me are the words calling on the Powers of Horus [Ra Hoor Khuit] and if stated in an authoritative projective voice, the effect is evident.

            If projected outward in the Sign of Projected Light it is very effective in clearing a space or when directed internally, it resonates with the heart center and increase the radiant power of the will. 😄

            just my 93 cents

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            • O Ophion280

              What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean? Is it a banishing of sorts like "apo pantos kakodeamonos" or just a general curse?

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              Ophion280
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              "These two fierce exclamations are thus common elements of Tiphereth. They represent the poewr of the Pentagram (358) and the Life, Love, Liberty, and Light of Sol (200). "

              So interpreted thus this phrasespeaks of the K&C of the HGA. and the spitting on of the "crapulous creeds" of the slave gods might be interpreted as the freedom from them given by ones HGA. So all in all this phrase is forshadowing of the freedom recieved from the 5=6 initiation?

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              • O Ophion280

                What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean? Is it a banishing of sorts like "apo pantos kakodeamonos" or just a general curse?

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                Jim Eshelman
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                @phoinix93 said

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                "These two fierce exclamations are thus common elements of Tiphereth. They represent the poewr of the Pentagram (358) and the Life, Love, Liberty, and Light of Sol (200). "

                So interpreted thus this phrasespeaks of the K&C of the HGA. and the spitting on of the "crapulous creeds" of the slave gods might be interpreted as the freedom from them given by ones HGA. So all in all this phrase is forshadowing of the freedom recieved from the 5=6 initiation?"

                Among other things... Yes!

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                • O Ophion280

                  What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean? Is it a banishing of sorts like "apo pantos kakodeamonos" or just a general curse?

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                  Ophion280
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                  Among other things... Yes!"

                  "How wounderful is the Qabalah! How great its securety from the profane, how splendid its secrets to the initiate!"

                  Beautiful! thank all of you for sheding a bit of light on this for me. i know feel like i can build off this idea and interpret it better for myself.

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                  • O Ophion280

                    What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean? Is it a banishing of sorts like "apo pantos kakodeamonos" or just a general curse?

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                    Wizardiaoan
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                    David Hulse records an interpretation of these words in his unpublished Liber CCCXXX Abrahadabra, which I thought was clever:

                    He translates "Bahlasti Ompehda" as "It is [magickal] power! Know and be there always!" in the following manner:

                    In Sanskrit, Bahl means "magickal power" and Asti means "It is".
                    In Enochian, Om means "know"; Pay means "be"; Da means "there"; and Payd means "always".

                    Perhaps in this relation RHK is saying "Know and be the magickal power, dismiss the creeds that do not invoke this true gnosis."

                    Do I think this is the correct interpretation? I have my doubts, but it is creative and interesting.

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                    • O Ophion280

                      What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean? Is it a banishing of sorts like "apo pantos kakodeamonos" or just a general curse?

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                      Frater SOL
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                      A.C.'s thoughts on the subject were "By sound, Bahlasti suggests "hurling" or "blasting"; Ompehda is not too phantastically onomatopaeic for "an explosion"." I have often used these words as a curse.

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                      • O Ophion280

                        What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean? Is it a banishing of sorts like "apo pantos kakodeamonos" or just a general curse?

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                        Asraiya
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                        93 more cents...

                        I have to agree with King of the Wolves as I can only go with the way it's always felt to me and the effects I've witnessed since I'm so gematrially challenged.. I catch myself mumble it under my breath sometimes in a foul enough mood to want to spit on the crapulous creed of imbeciles surrounding me. It seems to have a similar effect as my favorite people banishing phrase: "God bless them, and God keep them, far, far away.." The 2 or 3 people I've said that in reference to I have in fact never seen since 👿

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                        • O Ophion280

                          What exactly does this phrase"bahlasti ompehda" mean? Is it a banishing of sorts like "apo pantos kakodeamonos" or just a general curse?

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                          gerry456
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                          @Jim Eshelman said

                          "Having written the above, here is an excerpt from one of my diaries from the mid-1990s.

                          Bahlasti - BAHLAShTY [Hebrew] - is 358, Messiah and all the rest (or, without the Heh, 353 = Hermes).

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                          did u read about the analogy between Christ and Hermes in AC's Confessions?

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