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    red cloud
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    O? I suppose that's why you won't confuse my work with magic or magick. Tricks! I eat raps for breakfast - just boxed up your dildo with my lucky charms. Abrakadabra? Just between US I'm not afraid to scratch my nutts before you squirrels!

    It ain't a gamble with me suckas, I'm a sure thing. Momo is always wet & Haters get the balls. Now showgirls hit the strip, and get my money!

    tick tick boom

    incoming? cannonball!

    Io Pants!

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    @red cloud said

    "Daath is only existant to the oath-breaker."

    I would think, it exists only to the oath-taker. Once you have crossed the Abyss, is there a need or point to taking an oath? By then, perchance, every word is as good as an oath.

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    Frater SOL
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    @PainMeridian said

    "Is semen feminine?
    I always think about my sperm being male. Shiva not shakti.

    Shiva as in a concealed force."

    When considered as the Creative Force of the Universe, then Shakti is a perfect analogy. Kundalini Shakti, like Hadit, is the coiled & springing Serpent:

    "I am the secret Serpent coiled about to spring: in my coiling there is joy. If I lift up my head, I and my Nuit are one. If I droop down mine head, and shoot forth venom, then is rapture of the earth, and I and the earth are one. - Liber L. II:26"

    If Hadit lifts up His head, then He & Nuit are one. Similarly, if Kundalini Shakti lift up Her head, then She & Shiva are one.

    616

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    Jim Eshelman
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    @Uni_Verse said

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    @red cloud said
    "Daath is only existant to the oath-breaker."

    I would think, it exists only to the oath-taker. Once you have crossed the Abyss, is there a need or point to taking an oath? By then, perchance, every word is as good as an oath."

    Well, to take a conservative approach to answering: Crowley while 9=2 did discuss the oaths of the 8=3, 9=2, and 10=1 grades. "One Star in Sight" further discusse that to which a 10=1 is "sworn."

    So it seems safe to say that Crowley, when in a place to know, would have disagreed with you on this.

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    Jim Eshelman
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    @Jim Eshelman said
    "Well, to take a conservative approach to answering: Crowley while 9=2 did discuss the oaths of the 8=3, 9=2, and 10=1 grades. "One Star in Sight" further discusse that to which a 10=1 is "sworn." "

    Can you point me to where he discuss' the oaths? I do not seem to recall reading that. "

    It's in one of his published diaries during the '20s.

    The 8=3 oath is well known (or, at least, its penultimate clause is well-known). Ah, here it is: His diary entry for May 31, 1920:

    @666 said

    "I invoked Aiwaz, was shown a phantasm of Baphomet, and suddenly determined to recognize this for Him! I was instantly rewarded by the Word of the Oath of an Ipsissimus: 'I recognize every pbenomenon as God, that is, as my soul.' Hence we see, 10=1 shows God Omnipresent, Dementia; 9=2 God Omnipotent, Mania; and 8=3 God Omniscient, Melancholia."

    Someplace similar - I thought it was the same entry, but it isn't, and I can't find the passage - he gave the 9=2 equivalent clause as, “that I will make every act an expression of my Magical Formula.”

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    Aum418
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    @Jim Eshelman said

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    @Jim Eshelman said
    "Well, to take a conservative approach to answering: Crowley while 9=2 did discuss the oaths of the 8=3, 9=2, and 10=1 grades. "One Star in Sight" further discusse that to which a 10=1 is "sworn." "

    Can you point me to where he discuss' the oaths? I do not seem to recall reading that. "

    It's in one of his published diaries during the '20s.

    The 8=3 oath is well known (or, at least, its penultimate clause is well-known). Ah, here it is: His diary entry for May 31, 1920:

    @666 said

    "I invoked Aiwaz, was shown a phantasm of Baphomet, and suddenly determined to recognize this for Him! I was instantly rewarded by the Word of the Oath of an Ipsissimus: 'I recognize every pbenomenon as God, that is, as my soul.' Hence we see, 10=1 shows God Omnipresent, Dementia; 9=2 God Omnipotent, Mania; and 8=3 God Omniscient, Melancholia."

    Someplace similar - I thought it was the same entry, but it isn't, and I can't find the passage - he gave the 9=2 equivalent clause as, “that I will make every act an expression of my Magical Formula.”"

    Omniscience begets Melancholia?

    Dementia, Mania, and Melancholia as the trinity of attainment? I laughed at this one. Mania is definitely a side-effect of the path at times.

    IAO131

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    Jim Eshelman
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    @Aum418 said

    "Dementia, Mania, and Melancholia as the trinity of attainment? I laughed at this one. Mania is definitely a side-effect of the path at times."

    Dementia, Mania, and Melancholia are certainly the shadow play of the attainment.

    I would have said, however, that omnipresence begets melancholia, omnipotence begets mania, and omniscience begets dementia.

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    Chris Hanlon
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    Hi Jim,
    May we have more comment on why those are side effects?
    Thanks,
    chrys333

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    Everything has its shadow. You can't have a strong effect on the psyche without creating a shadow effect.

    These are the shadow companions of the corresponding states of attainment of the corresponding Supernal Sephiroth.

    Omnipresence is equivalent to alchemical Salt or the Tamas Guna. At its highest, it is the state of Binah. At the personality level it commonly manifests as depression, inertia, profound darkness, decay.

    Omnipotence is equivalent to alchemical Sulphur or the Rajas Guna. At its highest, it is the state of Chokmah. At the personality level it commonly manifests as hyperactivity.

    Omniscience is equivalent to alchemical Mercury or the Sattva Guna. At its highest, it is the state of Kether. At the personality level its aberrations are a breakdown of the interpretive faculty and other cognitive capabilities.

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    Fascinating.
    Much thanks.
    chrys333

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