Bathed in Blood
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Crowley noted in the late 1930s that each time he published Liber L. (and each time in a progressively superior form), a significant war started 9 months later. ... I've been unable to evade the fact that the hardcover edition (first professional grade publication) of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. was published December 11, 2000... nine months to the day before the most famous 9/11 in world history. Part of my has been dragging my feet on its republication to be sure that I'm not responsible for such a trigger within nine months of the end of the Bush administration."
Perhaps, just to be prudent, you should see that the next publication is progressively shoddy.
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Now, that is a practical suggestion!
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@Jim Eshelman said
"To the extent that we - as a species - totally get that the upheaval and transformation has to occur within, there will be no need to enact it without. Unfortunately, I don't think the human race "gets it" yet."
I agree.
@Metzareph said
"Nature intends initiation. The Aeon of Horus is here, therefore humanity IS ready but reluctant to accept the Law. The more we avoid it, the firmer the tap on the shoulder. "
This is the line of thought I was following. Successive global initiations. Unfortunately it seems they must be in the form of War to get peoples attention.
Its interesting to note though that these initiations seem to be enslaving people instead of liberating them. Basic rights are being questioned as to whether they are necessary for us to have(with the governments permission at least).
I guess this may go along the lines that you have to destroy or at least clear out the old for room for the new. Clear a space if you want to create right?
Oh and Jim. Little off topic but is there any date set for the new publication of M.M. of the A.'.A.'.?
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@phoinix93 said
"Oh and Jim. Little off topic but is there any date set for the new publication of M.M. of the A.'.A.'.?"
Thanks for asking. There may be an announcement one of these days.
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In war there is much deception. There is fear, suppression, cruelty and waste. The mind gains only more traumas, more amnesiac berriers, more aversions, more calus, scars, numbness, and ultimately every kind of stupidity increases from war.
The blood shed is hardly sacrificial in so far as it is not sacer. What is sacred about a war? It would be sacrificial if a large number of people gave in charity and virtue, NOT if a large number took lives, lied and wasted.
After the world war, propaganda of many sorts became so thick, governments became more concervative and autocratic, but in a way more subtle and dug in deeper. Spiritually, the human mind and soul, sank like a stone cast into a river; unity is reduced via wars.
As far as my senses can reach,
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"Unity is reduced via wars"
Unity cannot be reduced or expanded.
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@PainMeridian said
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"Unity is reduced via wars"Unity cannot be reduced or expanded."
I was talking about how unified and family-like the human race is / is not. Ethiopia is an example of a country after lots of war. I'll bet the souls of the people there are worse off than if there would have been peace. It didn't open up their mind, or wake them up spiritually, or nudge evolution, or clear the path to Thelema, or anything else.
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@Dannerz said
"In war there is much deception. There is fear, suppression, cruelty and waste. The mind gains only more traumas, more amnesiac berriers, more aversions, more calus, scars, numbness, and ultimately every kind of stupidity increases from war."
Speaking from an ex-us army infantryman's point of view, there is no more deception, fear, suppression, cruelty or waste in war, than there is in a game of chess. It's game of wit. The traumas you speak of are only such to those who do not sufficiently understand the nature of the game. Numbness, as you call it, on the other hand is essential to proper battle. Emotions have NO place in battle. The warrior who goes into a fight still valuing life will not survive. Care nothing for your life and you will fight with the glory of Achilles!
"The blood shed is hardly sacrificial in so far as it is not sacer. What is sacred about a war? It would be sacrificial if a large number of people gave in charity and virtue, NOT if a large number took lives, lied and wasted."
"Whats so civil about War anyway?" depends on how you look at it.
Anyhow.
This brings a thought to mind. The bulls and goats that were sacrificed in a sacred ceremony way back when probably, like there friends that were spared, didn't understand why they were being slaughtered. That doesn't mean it was "wasteful"."After the world war, propaganda of many sorts became so thick, governments became more concervative and autocratic, but in a way more subtle and dug in deeper. Spiritually, the human mind and soul, sank like a stone cast into a river; unity is reduced via wars."
"Wisdom says: be strong! Then canst thou bear more joy"
The unity of the human race? "The slaves shall serve.""Ethiopia is an example of a country after lots of war. I'll bet the souls of the people there are worse off than if there would have been peace. It didn't open up their mind, or wake them up spiritually, or nudge evolution, or clear the path to Thelema, or anything else."
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. Cliche's are cliche's for a reason.
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He who fights by the sword dies by the sword. That doesn't seem to accomplish anything but basic karmic retribution. To kill is to be killed. I certainly don't think any corporate sponsored wars over claims to profitable commodities gets anyone's attention beyond the effect it has on market rates...
It doesn't appear that many folks have noticed the massive increase in extinction rates either. But there's nothing like a clap of thunder, crashing tidal wave, or feeling the earth shake to make people reconsider what is law. I think the planet being bathed in blood is the acceptance our mutual responsibility to all walks of life. The Great War will be fought within...
This is just a creative interpretation of mine. I actually disagree with AC on the timing or lengths of the aeons as I would like to think the monstrosities of Hitler was enough to alert us to the error of our conquering ways.. But if it takes more blood I'll give mine because LOVE CONQUERS ALL
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@Asraiya said
"I certainly don't think any corporate sponsored wars over claims to profitable commodities gets anyone's attention beyond the effect it has on market rates...
"I agree, and would venture to say that all the wars fought in the recent past, say, probably back to WWII war fall into this category. And then even further. All wars are started to push along some ones agenda. They are fought in resistance to that agenda. I don't agree with a lot, if any, of what I see going on these days as it seems that this war on 'terror' was started for many many reasons to push our own governments agendas on the rest of the world and its own people.
"Every emancipator has enslaved the free"
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
Governments exist on the consent of the governed. Every soldier and policeman is a person, not a robot, and is, thus, first one of the governed, and thereafter a tool of the state. Thus, the government's power is built on consent, there, and in so far as we allow the government, its prisons and its laws to rule us.
Humanitarian interests, civil liberties, and freedom will continue to diminish until those who are losing their rights become so oppressed that they must either surrender their humanity and become naught but tools, or they choose to say that "enough is enough" and stop supporting/obeying a government which they no longer consent to be ruled by.
This, of course, would lead to another of those "bloody sacrifices" which served as the root of this thread. IMHO, this would be the True Sacrifice, the sacrifice of our own life and blood to secure a world in accord with our own Wills, as opposed to acquiescence to an Authority in which we do not beleive. "The word of Sin is restriction."
Ideally, of course, we don't die or have our blood shed in this cause, but it is likely that there will be some blood spilled, should such resistance be seen. A brief look back the the 1960's can easily warn us of the potential trouble ahead, save that, under the current state, these tribulations would be more dramatic. I guess the best way to put it would be to be prepared to lose all for the sake of Light, Life, Love and Liberty, but fight your best to be able to enjoy the spoils of your victory, i.e., LIVE.
It was the supreme sacrifice of the man called Christ that he held to his convictions and principles, to his Will, even unto his own death. In this reference we find the circumstances under which the Path of Christ is a Way to Salvation. Do what thou wilt, knowing the consequences, and without fear. Fear of death is the beginning of slavery.
Love is the law, love under will.
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The corporations comment, at least that fit.
People wont be successfully fighting for their freedom because poorly armed malitia can't do anything to modern infantry, tanks, helicopters, etc. Civilian uprisings of that sort are out of the question, and would fail. But taking responsability and paying attention to what's really going on, would make the difference and correct the government.
When people die in wars it's not a sacrificial death in any good spiritual sense of the word, because their released soul and lifeforce is not dedicated up to a higher avatar. Instead it's all used up for mundane control obsessions and usury.
I think that the reason why there would be war stuff starting up each time after some big Thelema book was released, 9 months later, would be because of alignment with shifting forces on the earth. But if there is a consciousness shift being forwarded and it is denied or rejected, the impulse will be to suppress more consciousness, so there's more control, deception and suppression politics tend to kick up right after. That would be from the rejection not the actuation of Thelema.
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93!
What I was trying to say is that to me blood symbolizes redemption, not death and destruction. Ownership of the forces that are in command is the best card we have to play. We have to decide what is most important, money, greed, and it's power, or life, light, and liberty. Being governed with laws that our internal moral make-up would dictate to us anyway if we were allowed to hear its voice is insulting to our intelligence and assumes the worst of us without allowing the natural course to see it's day.. Despite of everything we are truly good at heart and perhaps anarchy would not be quite as horrific as we have been lead to think it may..
Let there be blood I say. For what I meant as disbelief in the time frame of the aeon of Horus is that if there is still a society who wishes to be ruled by capitalism and democracy come 2013 then I will rest my case. I think that the people are ready for truth and the deceivers of truth will soon face judgement day.. Heart to feather.