CCXX 2:15
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Liber Legis, Cap. 2, v. 15. Original poster was removed from forum not for this thread / inquiry, but for barraging the forum with dozens of nonsense posts within a few minute span last night. His account and all posts were globally eradicated as I would do for any other spammer. But the thread is retained. - Administrator]
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Discussed here before but, sure, drag it out again
My musing are on record here:
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Jim, I read your comment which was scattered but good, and noticed you didn't mention what I consider to be the primary symbolism: basically that the 9 often plugs up the perfect balance of the 8. I cannot agree that it primarily refers to Hod and Yesod as you seem to suggest. Here is my comment:
On Hadit as 9 to the Fools and 8 to the Just
The simplest and most direct way to understand what is implied is to recall Hadit refers to himself as “the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle” in II:7. Imagine this wheel as having eight spokes and laying horizontally in the cube of space. Each spoke here represents one of the eight Fu Hsi trigrams of the Yijing. Each spoke also represents one of the eight black or white cubes that fit inside the cube of space as the eight diverse polarities of its vertices. The 9th point is the axle of the wheel itself. This 9th point is unaccounted for in the binary scheme and is thus a blockage to the unity of opposites being 0. This is the primary symbolism I suggest. From this we see that “the fools” or foolish people shout the Word as such to proclaim themselves to be the individual one thing, rather than Hadit as the perfectly balanced and equilibrated no thing. They reinforce themselves into limited beingness as the manifest axle of the wheel, as the individuality of something counted, something sticking out, something separate and apart. Teth as 9 is this wildly ferocious and assertive energy of the universal life force becoming mixed with the individuality of self, which is why it is portrayed as a Beast, being negatively prone to become uncontrolled force and low desire. The axle counted as 9 thus represents that which has become stuck upon itself or trapped in beingness through its continued shouting, which becomes inane foolishness when not in accord with or in consideration of the rest of the universe. The true speech, will or word of Hadit preserves the balance of the opposites and does not assert itself; it resounds out into the 8 directions and there is no difference within it. It is thus the speech of “the just,” of those who uphold the truth and virtue of equilibration. The axle of the wheel is to all accounts missing or absent here, the self is dissolved into the universal 0, where there is no blockage of the individual with the universal life. The Word issues forth untainted or interrupted by the individuality. Thus with the just the wheel does not have an axle, there has been no separation into individuality of the universal life force, the individual one is dissolved in the all so that “all is one.” This is the gnosis of “no difference.” The word “vital” plays upon the nature of the number 8, being representative of vitality of the life force with its booning energies. 8 is importantly a Fibonacci number; 8 as Ch begins ChIH “Life” in Hebrew, and 8 as J begins Jiva “Living Being; Soul” in Sanskrit. 8 as H represents DNA as the “Ladder of Life.” In the last it is true that one is meant to take part in both perspectives during one’s course, else there would be no wisdom in Teth, the shining, assertive individuality. These two opposites of the sun of the conscious individual and the moon of the unconscious universal are the paramount symbols of the whole self. Hadit is simply calling those that refuse to immerse themselves in the greater universal life and to dissolve their separated selves fools. The aim is to achieve a perfect balance or blending of the individual and universal states of self, so where one possesses a brilliant conscious that is wise enough to renew, bathe, and immerse itself in the universal, and where even the duality of the two is annihilated into one.
The verse being 81 serially is obviously a play on 1 in 8.
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"JAE quote:Discussed here before but, sure, drag it out again.
My musing are on record here:
aumha.org/arcane/ccxx2.htm#15"Stellar musing Jim. It reminds me of the way PFC writes. Freaking Awesome!
"AL 2:15 For I am perfect, being Not;"
Could this refer to the Ain of the Ain Suph Aur?
"AL 2:15 and my number is nine by the fools;"
I can't but help think that this is Yesod. The reason for this is the spelling of the Ain: From left to right. Aleph The Fool, Yod the Hermit, & **Nun **Death. There appears to be a generative/reproductive aspect that is running thru this word that would fit nicely with the function of Yesod.
**Aleph **The Fool; The Cosmic egg. Yod The Hermit; An Erection. Nun Death; Sex, the reproductive aspect of all life.
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Very enjoyable. Please continue to share.
In L.V.X.,
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Wow Jim, thank you SO much for sharing that link to your commentary on the verses of Liber AL. It is currently blowing my friggin' mind. What was the purpose of this commentary if any? Was it merely to make more apparent the Qabalistic correspondences of Liber AL or was it part of a greater commentary that you are working on? I noticed most of the dates say 1995, is it still in progress?
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@spaceman said
"What was the purpose of this commentary if any? Was it merely to make more apparent the Qabalistic correspondences of Liber AL or was it part of a greater commentary that you are working on? I noticed most of the dates say 1995, is it still in progress?"
In the early-to-mid '90s I just decided it was time to meditate on Liber L. verse by verse. On average, it was one verse a day. The posted text is a lightly-edited transcription of the diary for that 9 months or so. On reviewing the diary, Soror Meral instructed me to find a way and place to make it available to students, so I eventually picked this way.