Did I contact my Holy Guardian Angel?
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When I was around ten, I was very interested in what dreams were - what was going on when I was sleeping? Where was I? So, I made a commitment to realize in my dreams that I was sleeping. This took me a couple of months. I remember being really frustrated, because I was there in the dream world, realizing that I was sleeping, and I was asking everyone: "Where am I?" "Who are you?" And they would look at me as if I were crazy, so I ended up choking people (including my own mom!). One night, though, I dreamt that I was talking to my grandpa who had been dead for quite some time and I remember thinking: "My God, I'm dreaming - you've died!" Things went a little weird, because I stopped asking where I was and who everyone was - for some reason, I remember feeling that I was in a different dimension. Then, here's where things get a little strange...I came to what I believed was the ends of the universe - a place that is too sublime to be perceived, so what I was perceiving was just a representation of this place. And there I saw a man who I believed was Mozart (my parent's had let me watch Amadeus a week or so before and I was digging the music; I soon saw Mozart as one of my heroes, which seems really strange to me now). Mozart told me that he was my soul and that I had more than one soul. I don't remember much after that, but eventually I was in my own casket, being driven in a hurst along with my true love over to our funeral. And I was okay - I was fine with death. This is a strange dream for a ten year old... I read that you can contact your Holy Guardian Angel through the practice of lucid dreaming - did I contact my Holy Guardian Angel who came in the form of Mozart?
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@drunken_maria said
" Mozart told me that he was my soul and that I had more than one soul. I don't remember much after that, but eventually I was in my own casket, being driven in a hurst along with my true love over to our funeral. And I was okay - I was fine with death. This is a strange dream for a ten year old... I read that you can contact your Holy Guardian Angel through the practice of lucid dreaming - did I contact my Holy Guardian Angel who came in the form of Mozart?"
!!we have had a very similar experience Maria, your post is I should say not surprisingly synchronous with a post I deleted called "double wand of power" and some recent discussions about time-travel. So I would say YES you may have.
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The great concepts, like communicating with one's HGA, have so much Mystery mixed in with the attempt to communicate about it. By Mystery, I mean a sort of strange and intricate interaction of Being with Being that exists beyond words and labels. Whenever you start getting into the words and labels, communication always has to take place within the limits of our own minds, symbols, and understandings. And in this case, we're talking about something like this happening in a 10 year old's mind.
I guess I should explain myself by saying the my concept of the HGA is as a sort of perfected expression of the intelligence of whatever function and flavor soul you are - that fulcrum between your identity as an individual with personality and the rest of Living Everything. I see it as the Genius of our Indiviuation - the accomplishment of our Will and the fulfillment of our soul's Identity.
My instinct would be to take a more abstract understanding of your dream:
A part of yourself recognized something of a particular kind of soul or genius in the movie Amadeus that you felt a sense of identity with. In your dream, the part of yourself that identifies with that genius appeared to you in the most recognizable form of that genius to your 10 year old mind. He tells you that you share an identity with this flavor, color, function, wavelength of soul or genius - and an identity (kinship of Being) with other past expressions of this kind of soul.
Now, it's true. In my version, you end up being less of a reincarnation of Mozart and more of a reincarnation of whatever kind of genius or soul you related to when you saw the movie.
Of course, who am I to say that you're not a reincarnation of Mozart? At the same time, I've found that the language of dreams and the subconscious is usually much more symbolic than literal. Would I say that you had communicated with your HGA under my interpretation? I would say that it is highly possible, but maybe not like you thought when you were 10...
I think a really good thing to do would be to watch the movie a few times while asking yourself, now that you're older, what about the character or his experience in the movie connects with you on that deep soul-identity level? That may give you a more precise an idea of what connects with your sense of deepest self than the broader paintbrush of identifying with the entire life and history of Mozart in history.
lol... just trying to complicate things... Who are you going to listen to? Your dreams? Or half-mad bookworms and navel-gazers? The only satisfactory answer will come to you as you continue to experiment...
Peace,
Lance
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@drunken_maria said
"When I was around ten, I was very interested in what dreams were - what was going on when I was sleeping? Where was I? So, I made a commitment to realize in my dreams that I was sleeping. This took me a couple of months. I remember being really frustrated, because I was there in the dream world, realizing that I was sleeping, and I was asking everyone: "Where am I?" "Who are you?" And they would look at me as if I were crazy, so I ended up choking people (including my own mom!). One night, though, I dreamt that I was talking to my grandpa who had been dead for quite some time and I remember thinking: "My God, I'm dreaming - you've died!" Things went a little weird, because I stopped asking where I was and who everyone was - for some reason, I remember feeling that I was in a different dimension. Then, here's where things get a little strange...I came to what I believed was the ends of the universe - a place that is too sublime to be perceived, so what I was perceiving was just a representation of this place. And there I saw a man who I believed was Mozart (my parent's had let me watch Amadeus a week or so before and I was digging the music; I soon saw Mozart as one of my heroes, which seems really strange to me now). Mozart told me that he was my soul and that I had more than one soul. I don't remember much after that, but eventually I was in my own casket, being driven in a hurst along with my true love over to our funeral. And I was okay - I was fine with death. This is a strange dream for a ten year old... I read that you can contact your Holy Guardian Angel through the practice of lucid dreaming - did I contact my Holy Guardian Angel who came in the form of Mozart?"
No, you had an astral vision.
IAO131
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@Scapegoa said
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@Aum418 said
"No, you had an astral vision.IAO131"
Aum, would you care to elaborate?"
Just adding - I agree with the assessment.
I would vary from it only to say that it isn't unusual for some aspect of the Voice of the HGA to use such visions. However, it takes experience, discernment, a keen Truth Sense, etc. to filter these en route billboards.
And yes, I agree that the described experience was an astral vision.
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@Scapegoa said
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@Aum418 said
"No, you had an astral vision.IAO131"
Aum, would you care to elaborate?"
HGA is typified by a perceptual change related to ego. I saw absolutely no movement towards ego dissolution or anything similar. Instead I simply saw sights, sounds, and pleasurable feelings - all of which are common with 'astral' and none of which are related to what I understand as K&C inherently.
IAO131
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@Aum418 said
" - all of which are common with 'astral'
IAO131"Thanks, that makes sense, but i specifically wanted an elaboration of what you determine "astral" since I had a very similar experience to this.
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@Scapegoa said
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@Aum418 said
" - all of which are common with 'astral'
IAO131"Thanks, that makes sense, but i specifically wanted an elaboration of what you determine "astral" since I had a very similar experience to this."
Experiences/stimuli that are obviously not coming from the physical world but are phenomenologically real for the perceiver. The dream world, scrying vision, and astral projection all come under this heading in my definition. Feelings of the senses, feelings of the body in space, and emotions can all be felt in dreams even though there is obviously no physical stimuli at work like in the waking sense - same with astral. I see K&C as not simply a different class of stimuli but as a completely different perceptual revaluation/illumination/catastrophe/shift.
IAO131
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@Aum418 said
"HGA is typified by a perceptual change related to ego. I saw absolutely no movement towards ego dissolution or anything similar.
IAO131"
@Aum418 said
" I see K&C as not simply a different class of stimuli but as a completely different perceptual revaluation/illumination/catastrophe/shift.
IAO131"
In my vision there was some type of catastrophe/shift; at the time I was still conflicted about Christianity, possibly due to an over exposure of the same, in the exotic environment with which I was surrounded at the time. The vision occurred during a period of extreme isolation, Ironically not intentionally for Magical Ritual purposes, as I had very little knowledge or exposure to Magick at that time. it was also an emotionally intense period, that required extreme focus and environmental awareness. This experience is probably what led me down this path to this point. I had what maybe described as "extreme lucidity"; The Sun was Powerful and Radiant, the colours were vivid and vibrant.Intially I was outside in the open..extensive green meadows, flowers, butterflies...a beautiful cloudless summers day! Suddenly, I began to take flight! in dreams this is not unusual for me but the apparent momentum/force this time was of a different order, i remember "thinking/anticipating" in the dream that i was being "caught up to heaven", however the sequence of events turned rather unexpectedly. I began, what I can only now describe as something analogous to "rising in the spheres" or " through the Aethyrs", I would have to literally "breakthrough" by sheer "Will" to ascend to the next level, each time there was a characteristic colour, and different beings/inhabitants in each realm, always i would ask the natives, is Jesus here? And they would say always say "no", and I would struggle to break into the sphere above. Finally I found myself back in the past, in my very first home, that i ever remember; Standing in my room looking at my reflection in the life-size mirror(which in itself in a unique occurrence ), in London England(far away from where i was at the time physically),funny considering, i was probably back to being 9 or 10 years old, maybe less(physically i was maybe 22)!!! This realm was more lucid than the intermediary realms, only the Summer fields had the same intensity, except this time it was opposite, it was almost "pitch black" and there was "total silence" yet i had a very eerie feeling that something significant was about to happen, i ventured out of my room into the hallway where i could barely make out a "figure" in what i now know as a hooded "Magicians Robe"(but i didn't at the time) Standing arms crossed leaning against the wall... motionless, anxious as I was, my curiosity got the better of me, as i approached the figure he spoke but I could not make out his face, he asked me are you looking for Jesus Christ? eager in anticipation, I answered "yes". What happened next was, at the time to me;shocking, horrific, unexpected and seemingly counter-intuitive, The figure then said "There is no Jesus Christ, Cockroach is King!!! and a huge cockroach suddenly rushed out from under the cabinet!!! at which point I awoke, startled! For the first time in my life in a "cold sweat"! i have never been the same. when eventually I returned to the western world and laid my hands on "Magick in theory and practice" the first thing that struck me was the "signs of the grades" and seeing the "exact hooded robe" that my "visitor" wore. Immediately i felt a personal connection to AC.
Forgive the lengthy nature of this post, my question. Could this dream have any significance beyond being merely an astral vision? especially considering i had no prior knowledge of either Magick, Hooded Robes, nor Rising on the planes?
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@Scapegoa said
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@Aum418 said
"HGA is typified by a perceptual change related to ego. I saw absolutely no movement towards ego dissolution or anything similar.IAO131"
@Aum418 said
" I see K&C as not simply a different class of stimuli but as a completely different perceptual revaluation/illumination/catastrophe/shift.
IAO131"
In my vision there was some type of catastrophe/shift; at the time I was still conflicted about Christianity, possibly due to an over exposure of the same, in the exotic environment with which I was surrounded at the time. The vision occurred during a period of extreme isolation, Ironically not intentionally for Magical Ritual purposes, as I had very little knowledge or exposure to Magick at that time. it was also an emotionally intense period, that required extreme focus and environmental awareness. This experience is probably what led me down this path to this point. I had what maybe described as "extreme lucidity"; The Sun was Powerful and Radiant, the colours were vivid and vibrant.Intially I was outside in the open..extensive green meadows, flowers, butterflies...a beautiful cloudless summers day! Suddenly, I began to take flight! in dreams this is not unusual for me but the apparent momentum/force this time was of a different order, i remember "thinking/anticipating" in the dream that i was being "caught up to heaven", however the sequence of events turned rather unexpectedly. I began, what I can only now describe as something analogous to "rising in the spheres" or " through the Aethyrs", I would have to literally "breakthrough" by sheer "Will" to ascend to the next level, each time there was a characteristic colour, and different beings/inhabitants in each realm, always i would ask the natives, is Jesus here? And they would say always say "no", and I would struggle to break into the sphere above. Finally I found myself back in the past, in my very first home, that i ever remember; Standing in my room looking at my reflection in the life-size mirror(which in itself in a unique occurrence ), in London England(far away from where i was at the time physically),funny considering, i was probably back to being 9 or 10 years old, maybe less(physically i was maybe 22)!!! This realm was more lucid than the intermediary realms, only the Summer fields had the same intensity, except this time it was opposite, it was almost "pitch black" and there was "total silence" yet i had a very eerie feeling that something significant was about to happen, i ventured out of my room into the hallway where i could barely make out a "figure" in what i now know as a hooded "Magicians Robe"(but i didn't at the time) Standing arms crossed leaning against the wall... motionless, anxious as I was, my curiosity got the better of me, as i approached the figure he spoke but I could not make out his face, he asked me are you looking for Jesus Christ? eager in anticipation, I answered "yes". What happened next was, at the time to me;shocking, horrific, unexpected and seemingly counter-intuitive, The figure then said "There is no Jesus Christ, Cockroach is King!!! and a huge cockroach suddenly rushed out from under the cabinet!!! at which point I awoke, startled! For the first time in my life in a "cold sweat"! i have never been the same. when eventually I returned to the western world and laid my hands on "Magick in theory and practice" the first thing that struck me was the "signs of the grades" and seeing the "exact hooded robe" that my "visitor" wore. Immediately i felt a personal connection to AC.
Forgive the lengthy nature of this post, my question. Could this dream have any significance beyond being merely an astral vision? especially considering i had no prior knowledge of either Magick, Hooded Robes, nor Rising on the planes?"
93,
Personally I find labelling various experiences as something-or-other as rather tedious. We should acknowledge and attempt to integrate our experiences. What else is there to do really?
IAO131