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True Will as Wyrd

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    Frater SOL
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    The accomplishment of the True Will has been likened to the attainment of one's destiny. Destiny is one translation of the Old English concept of Wyrd. I don't know how closely connected, if at all, Wyrd is to Word (used as in LOGOS) etymologically, but the correspondence of the Will to the Word seemed striking this morning while contemplating the True Will as Wyrd. OASN, Wyrd = 220.

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    Avshalom Binyamin
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    Wyrd is actually connected with weird, not word.

    Interestingly

    "In Norse mythology three female entities called the Norns are responsible for shaping lives out of ørlög, the layers of the past. Their names are Urðr (Wyrd) 'that which has become'; Verðandi (related to the Anglo-Saxon weorþan, see above) 'that which is in the process of becoming'; and Skuld (Should) 'that which should necessarily be'. In the Eddic poem Helgakviða Hundingsbana 1, the Norns twist the strands of the infant prince's ørlög (which in this case can be seen as his heritage, since he has no personal past to speak of) to create a golden cord representing his life.[2]"

    from:
    www.wyrdwords.vispa.com/heathenry/whatwyrd.html

    and here might be your logos connection:

    "The term ørlǫg is from ór "out, from, beyond" and lǫg "law", and may be interpreted literally as "beyond law", or as "fundamental/absolute/primary law"."

    from:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyrd

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    Paul Bauschatzs The Well and the Tree is one of the better sources for gaining an understanding of Wyrd in its original context. It does not have an association with Thelema or Will though it does have a close linguistic association with the idea of Becoming.

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    the atlas itch
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    True Will is a becoming so I'm not sure how it would differ from Wyrd - unless you're making a fine distinction between destiny versus fate. Crowley writes that he never imagined that one day he would attain to the grade of Magus - imagine how weird that must have been for him. Indeed I hardly recognize my own public persona these days...

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    Edward Mason
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    93,

    Is Wyrd, perhaps, True Will as it was understood by a much earlier period, in another Aeon? Even if we conceded that TW is a primal energy, the words we use for it imply some element of discrimination and control that would represent an evolution of the concept.

    I'm suggesting that once we had Wyrd as something woven for us by the Norns, Fates or whomever. In this Aeon, we are co-workers and co-creators of the expression of True Will.

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    JNV33
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    Regarding a connection between the meanings of "weird" and "wyrd", I thought of weird synchronicities that can seem almost fate-like.

    Well, a mnemonic if nothing else. 😄

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    Edward Mason
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    93,
    JNV33 wrote:

    "Regarding a connection between the meanings of "weird" and "wyrd", I thought of weird synchronicities that can seem almost fate-like. "

    The two words are intimately linked. Anyone following True Will or some harmonic of it is going to seem weird to those centered in or around consensus-based societal norms. As a kid, I was often told I was weird, until finally I accepted it was true.

    When I first discovered the word 'wyrd' I got excited about it, but I couldn't manipulate its meaning to quite fit with that of True Will. But I think it's a concept worth giving time to, especially for people who aren't sure what their True Wills might be, or how to go about ascertaining them. Old Aeon notions are deeply embedded in us, and can sometimes make easier starting points than New Aeon ideas.

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    Frater SOL
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    @Edward Mason said

    "Old Aeon notions are deeply embedded in us, and can sometimes make easier starting points than New Aeon ideas."

    An interesting point, Eddie. 😄

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    @Edward Mason said

    "When I first discovered the word 'wyrd' I got excited about it, but I couldn't manipulate its meaning to quite fit with that of True Will. But I think it's a concept worth giving time to, especially for people who aren't sure what their True Wills might be, or how to go about ascertaining them."

    If the Wyrd Sisters = the Three Fates = the Triple Goddess, would that map this archetype onto to Binah as the completion of the adept's earthly identity? Or should it be mapped much lower on the Tree?

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    Edward Mason
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    93,

    "If the Wyrd Sisters = the Three Fates = the Triple Goddess, would that map this archetype onto to Binah as the completion of the adept's earthly identity? Or should it be mapped much lower on the Tree?"

    Sounds about right - after all, Binah is Sephirah No. 3.

    Binah is the Mother of Form - it heads the Pillar of Form, so anything formative of what we experience would have its roots there.

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