Symbolic act of Christ
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@Foolster said
"Jim, you consider that neither crowley or AL may play a visible part in the propogation of the ideals set forth in AL, so then with this dispensation of a quantumn shift in perspective wouldn't it them perhaps be true that we could see this type of consciousness transforming the world religions?"
Possibly. Liber L., after all, makes room for the worship of more or less any god one wishes but in the context that what we mean by Horus is behind (or at the center) of it all.
Nonetheless, and while I believe extant religions could extend their lifespan with the right moves, and while I'm sure they'll at least survive in pockets, I think the eventual path must be their near-abolishment. Ultimately, I think the biggest thiong wrong with Christianity is the rotting and pollution of the body, not its spirit - and I don't see that troxicity being removable on the astral (nonmaterial) levels by any means at all. We just need to cremate it eventually.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
It's really easy to get the impression of Christianity being of a rather fixed form for a very long time. But it has been going through pretty big transformations from the very beginning, which is why I'd agree with Jim and say that another tweaking is only going to buy it so much time.
In the Gospels (including a very interesting parallel passage in the Gospel of Thomas) it's an ongoing background debate about Jesus as prophet, angel, reincarnated prophet, God, son of God, wise man, etc. (Thomas' didn't even try to define him, when asked... which is priceless!). And the popular motif evolved over time. You have early representations of the young Christ as a shepherd boy, early Roman and Byzantine depictions of him as a powerful Magician, a powerful solar God in the middle ages, a suffering man on the cross in Northern European renaissance art, a humanist, compassionate teacher in some 19th century protestant sects, the holy fool who can't catch a break because the rest of us are such bast***s in everything from Dostoevsky's "The Idiot" to "Cool Hand Look",
and - dare I say it - an zen Buddhist techno-pagan occultist mashup in "The Matrix" and "the Da Vinci Code" thanks to the Nag Hammadi re-discovery.We can debate about what the central formulas are (or should be), but one thing is clear to me: the self-sacrificing redeemer formula is dead. You can almost hear the audience groan every time that one shows up in a movie.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
I guess I'm chomping at the bit. Every religion needs a mythos to serve as a vehicle for transmittance and I just do not see thelema operating as the next universal mythos, that's why I was scheming regarding the hijacking, if you will, of a current vehicle so we don't have to reinvent the wheel etc.
Mormonism added onto xianity and teaches the concepts of eternal evolution to godhood and employs some other interesting mystical concepts. Now they are 15 million strong and have some clout, be it financial or cultural.
What is the next mythos. Does Thelema expect a prophet/s to follow after crowley? The only mythos I can see developing is a space oriented one where the Inter-dimensional beings who pretend to be aliens would make open contact, THAT would disrupt the 3 abrahamic religions. And if that doesn't happen I'm open to seeing the Vatican, Mecca and Jerusalem in ashes.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@Foolster said
"Mormonism added onto xianity and teaches the concepts of eternal evolution to godhood and employs some other interesting mystical concepts. Now they are 15 million strong and have some clout, be it financial or cultural. "
Yeah, but they were started by a prophet who claimed some angel came and gave him a book. What do we have to compete with that?
"What is the next mythos."
What's wrong with the one we have? (It need not look like old fashioned mytgh-making. For example, it need not have a story element.) You don't have to have aliens to have an archetypal framework based on a vision of space.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@Foolster said
"What is the next mythos. Does Thelema expect a prophet/s to follow after crowley?"
There is some talk of a child, yes.
And as far as the development of Thelema is concerned: no major religion became wide-scale overnight. It is a long and tedious process, and often involves blood.
"what is the next mythos?"
I think there is plenty of mythos surrounding Thelema to satisfy the average mortal.
The D & D shit is only the mainstream perspective.
And since when has any Hermetic school or system adhered to the conceptions of the masses?
The Mysteries of Thelema are for the kings, and it is best kept that way. The masses are already manipulated in ways none of us here will probably ever comprehend. Christianity cannot last more than a couple more generations, at most.
The "conerstone" spoken of in the gospels is starting to look more like a sphere.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@JPF said
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@Foolster said
"What is the next mythos. Does Thelema expect a prophet/s to follow after crowley?"There is some talk of a child, yes."
But there's no indication that the child is another prophet - just that he (and it is specified as a he) is a child.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@Jim Eshelman said
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@JPF said
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@Foolster said
"What is the next mythos. Does Thelema expect a prophet/s to follow after crowley?"There is some talk of a child, yes."
But there's no indication that the child is another prophet - just that he (and it is specified as a he) is a child."
True. But he will explain the mysteries. And looking at the variety of opinions and doctrines and utter BS surrounding Thelema, it would be nice if somebody would take charge and clear things up. Divinely inspired, of course.
There is also some talk of a prophet to come at the end of this Aeon, if I am not mistaken.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@JPF said
"There is also some talk of a prophet to come at the end of this Aeon, if I am not mistaken."
One might, perhaps, better say, "at the beginning of the next." Every new aeon needs its prophet to launch it.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
"I think there is plenty of mythos surrounding Thelema to satisfy the average mortal."
i think you're out of touch with the average joe then. I run an international business and meet all sorts of individuals; most of them are "christian" but have little real interest in their Dog or what it means for them. The embody the corpse they grew up worshipping. Thelema is a niche product, and thats why it appeals to a niche group.
Anyway, no more prophets please! Haven't we had enough!?
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@Jim Eshelman said
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One might, perhaps, better say, "at the beginning of the next." Every new aeon needs its prophet to launch it."Isn't every end a new beginning?
"i think you're out of touch with the average joe then. I run an international business and meet all sorts of individuals; most of them are "christian" but have little real interest in their Dog or what it means for them. The embody the corpse they grew up worshipping. Thelema is a niche product, and thats why it appeals to a niche group. "
Well, that's your perspective, and you're entitled to it. But I'm inclined to think of Thelema not as a "product," per se, or something to be mass marketed, but as what it is: infinite, empty, omniform. The desire to classify, distinguish, interpret and dogmatize is the same desire that created the same horrors you see in Christianity. Why would we wish to install Thelema in its place? To create a fresh tyrant for willing sheep? There will always be sheep, at least as long as the current gene pool remains un-chlorinated. You speak of enlightening the average man. What makes you think the average man wants to be enlightened? How do you know it is even his Will to be enlightened?
No matter how many veils you tear away, your average mortal will still refuse to comprehend the divine.
"Some are born to sweet delight..."
All is every as it has been and should be.
(A glance at Liber AL vel Legis might dispel certain of your notions regarding Thelema.
)"Anyway, no more prophets please! Haven't we had enough!? "
There will always be prophets.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@Foolster said
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"I think there is plenty of mythos surrounding Thelema to satisfy the average mortal."i think you're out of touch with the average joe then."
I'm absolutely uninterested in the average joe - as they exist at this point in time. My point is, in part, that Thelema will not mainstream until the mainstream changes. I once thought this would take a thousand years or more, but (with accelerations occurring) I think this might be able to happen in half that time.
We have lots of time.
"Anyway, no more prophets please! Haven't we had enough!?
"We'll need one to overthrow Thelema in a millennium or two, and foster in whatever comes next.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
Christianity took 300 years to start becoming serious. Thelema has 500 years if you count Rabelais, but counting from Crowey just 100 years. This is still a very young concept. You gotta give it time to unfold…
The way i see Thelema taking hold is not as a religion or anything like that. It's by changing the consciousness of people, and that happens slowly without people ever noticing. And it's happening.
Look at Jay-Z at 15s or the lyrics on the song.
There are signs everywhere.About Christianity, it's already slowly eroding. Every country that legalizes abort or homosexual marriage kills a little bit more Christianity. Every christian who pays lip service instead of taking the commandments seriously or that believes in "my own vision of God" stab Christianity another wound. It's a matter of time.
PS: I still fear Thelema's Council of Nicea
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
JayZ is doing it for $$. Go to a tool concert. Laser unicursal hexagrams, star of babalon banners and 15 minute intermissions where they lower 10' decagons from the ceiling that are inscribed with sigils.
Their studio is arranged according to the tree and Maynard sings from Ain Soph when recording.Anyway, I think my original point was lost and I didn't clearly communicate it because I liked hearing opinions. Talking about hastening the collapse of the abrahamic religions by attacking from within their ranks. You can let a building become delapidated or pack it full of explosives. Speaking purely metaphorical btw.
I want to see these fuckers go down, make no mistake; it's what I think about everyday. Anyone who would like to do some group work pm me because there is alot we can get done sitting right where we are.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@Foolster said
"I want to see these {shaggers} go down, make no mistake; it's what I think about everyday. Anyone who would like to do some group work pm me because there is alot we can get done sitting right where we are."
Perhaps you are translating your internal strife to external matters.
The most effective changes come from within.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@Foolster said
"Talking about hastening the collapse of the abrahamic religions by attacking from within their ranks. You can let a building become delapidated or pack it full of explosives. Speaking purely metaphorical btw."
There's another way. Unfortunately, it involves work, and not enough people have been willing to commit to the years of work needed.
In your building metaphor, the biggest way that old structures are being removed today is that somebody else builds something newer and cooler and better that people want to move relocate to. Eventually the old places are empty and then someone buys them to tear down and build a parking structure or mini-mall.
The metaphor is solid: We need people (lots of people! lots of groups! lots of ideas!) to build new cool stuff - visibly, creatively, intelligently, with follow-through and decades-long commitment to them as emergent institutions. When the new "architectural" standards become evident, people will "move into them" and vacate the old spots.
To make a perhaps unnecessarily uncompassionate comparison: Rats do not flee a sinking ship as long as it's still floating, even if it's only drift wood. They need someplace else to flee to.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
Jpf- your assessments are shallow and do not add anything to the conversation.
Jim: I like it. Having built up a an international business from nothing to something while taking out other corporations, I can say I know a bit about bringing a vision to fruition. I think there enough of us for some to handle demolition and others man the new construction. I think operating in silence or through proxies is a good idea too.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@Foolster said
"I think operating in silence or through proxies is a good idea too."
Useful in business. I think, though, that it is not a very Thelemic approach (simply because it's not a very honest approach).
My only concern in this whole conversation is that we would end up changing ourselves more than our targets. You know, the old "you've become what you hated" principle. Intending to act without integrity of self is a treacherous path - not unmanageable, but clearly treacherous.
The truer path is to be "most ourselves."
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@Foolster said
"Jpf- your assessments are shallow"
Indeed, it can be difficult to penetrate the paper-thin!
As regards your war with Christianity:
Observe the nature of the Dao!
"He that, desiring a kingdom, exerteth himself to obtain it, will fail. A Kingdom is of the nature of spirit, and yieldeth not to activity. He who graspeth it, destroyeth it; he who gaineth it, loseth it.
The wheel of nature revolveth constantly; the last becometh first, and the first last; hot things grow cold, and cold things hot; weakness overcometh strength; things gained are lost anon. Hence the wise man avoideth effort, desire and sloth. "
Thelema was not created as a new toy for the masses. The law is for all, but the Light and the Liberty remain for the Kings, who know naught, do naught, and are naught.
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Hello,
I have studied Thelema for many years, and practiced my own version of it with profound results. Now, me being a religion major I have a deep appreciation for all religions to some extent. The other day I was doing some Yoga in the Sun and asked the Spirit to enlighten me if I have missed anything. My mind began to be flooded by imagery and thus it follows:
I did some greater research into the symbolic act of atonement within the Jewish priestly system. It is very fascinating and suggest reading up on it to anyone if you find such interesting. But what is so interesting to me was the temple structure with the different veils separating the priests from commoners and the High Priest from the officiating priests.
The High Priest would enter this Veil of Paroketh once a year on the day of Atonement. Highly structured and symbolic, it is inspiring to read about and imagine. They would tie a rope around the High Priests waist because he stood the chance of dying when he entered the Holy of Holies and pronounced the Tetragrammatron and Shekinah (dwelling/presence) of YHVH would descend into the HofH. The priest would flick the blood of an animal he had sacrificed and symbolically transferred the sins of his tribe/humanity onto. I would consider this a symbolic act of sacrificing the animal self.
Cut to Jesus. He speaks metaphorically of destroying the temple and rebuilding it, obviously referring to the Body. Even John 1:14 which says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" uses a Greek verb corresponding to the noun 'tabernacle' so that his statement literally declares 'The Word became flesh and tabernacled (or pitched a tent) among us'. Christ dies and it is mentioned briefly that the veil is rent from top to bottom, thereby exposing the HofH. Before this He had mentioned what many interpret as a second coming but if you read the Greek, the work used is Parousia, which means dwelling or presence. It also implies a visit from Royalty to a City. This word is analogous to Shekinah, much as Moshiach translated to Greek is 'Christ'.
These words both mean "anointed one" and going back further implies the anointing of the Holy Oil, of which a recipe is given in the OT, calling for what modern hebrew scholars have interpreted as cannabis, as well as calamus (contains mescaline analogues).
Anyway, this whole act of Christ now appears much more magickal and transformative to me and I interpret it in a new way.
Whereas before only the High Priest could enter into communion with the Shekinah, Christ himself had achieved a sanctified state of mind whereby he replaced the slaughtered animal with himself and while in communion with the spirit effectively tore down the veil in the mass collective mind by making the state of Christ available to all. He points out this by referencing his "Parousia", not second coming, but settling of the Holy Spirit which we witness during Pentacost when the tongues of Fire settle onto the disciples and they get a taste of Higher Consciousness.
This makes it appear as if Christ was attempting to overthrow an established religious mindset through a mystical/magickal act that would make available to all a personal communion with the High Self/HGA and chop at the knees of the priest craft which was heavy on the law and of which Christ broke and said, "A new commandment I give you; Love God and Love others." He also reportedly said, "Do not say I can to bring peace, but I bring a sword" The Gospel of Thomas has the disciples asking him, "When can we expect the coming of the kingdom you describe?" and he replies, "Verily the Kingdom is spread out before you, but you cannot see it." I found some interesting verses in Hebrews 8-9 which speak of the rituals as a "shadow and copy" of a heavenly counterpart.
Thereafter though the Catholic church entered into the fracas and created a stringent hierarchy of priests and penance that have been enslaving to say the least.
Does this change how any of you see Xianity? You see, I believe to destroy Xianity we must do so from the inside and that will take a radical new interpretation that chops at the knees of the current establishment, paving the way for something more suitable.
@JPF said
"Thelema was not created as a new toy for the masses. The law is for all, but the Light and the Liberty remain for the Kings, who know naught, do naught, and are naught.
"I think uou miss the whole point: Everyone is intended to be a king!
Hence my take, mentioned above: It's absolutely for the masses... but down the road, when the masses are ready for it!