Self-Discipline

Mike

"* Put your sexlife under control. Use the sexmagical formulas related to Yesod/Gamaliel."

Can you (or anyone else, for that matter) enlighten me as to what you mean by this, and where I might be able to learn about these formulas? I am struggling with this specific thing myself.

Mephisto

I find it challenging to masturbate as long as possible without reaching fulfillment.

Takamba

@JPF said

"I find it challenging to masturbate as long as possible without reaching fulfillment."

seriously?

Avshalom Binyamin

It's easier than doing it longer than possible.

Takamba

@AvshalomBinyamin said

"It's easier than doing it longer than possible. "

No. Okay. Honestly. This is the point where I admit that I like this forum better than Lastal. This place allows the NooB questions... but seriously, is it that hard to control? Am I that unique? I don't wish to believe this. Can't you just instead imagine the Buddhist relationship to baseball when you start to reach that home run moment?

Avshalom Binyamin

"Fear not when I fall in the fury of the storm; for mine acorns are blown afar by the wind; and verily I shall rise again, and my children about me..."

Mephisto

@Takamba said

"seriously?"

Quite.

Sexuality is closely linked to consciousness; the two go hand in hand.

"It's easier than doing it longer than possible."

That's more advanced.

"Can't you just instead imagine the Buddhist relationship to baseball when you start to reach that home run moment?"

I tend towards goats and my great-grandmother personally--but in my first post I refer to a spiritual practice, distinct from mundane coitus. Sexual energy is a potent meditative tool, when mastered. It has to do with awakening latent energy. I'll leave it at that...

""Fear not when I fall in the fury of the storm; for mine acorns are blown afar by the wind; and verily I shall rise again, and my children about me...""

I've never seen a quote used more pertinently.

Avshalom Binyamin

It's much easier than being in the selection role, batting off unworthy suitors hoping for a good source of DNA to arrive... something that's become especially poignant for me, seeing as my wife didn't meet me until she was 38...

Al-Shariyf

93s,

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Reef

Avshalom Binyamin

sweet, thanks! I started on it today.

Escarabajo

@JPF said

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@Takamba said
"seriously?"

Quite.

Sexuality is closely linked to consciousness; the two go hand in hand.

"

So on this topic what is the general view towards masturbation and intention? I've read a lot of books talking about using it to charge sigils and whatnot. I have not read much on this forum relating to this however.

And similarly, including sex with a partner - is it best to keep any thoughts of magic, spirituality, etc. separate from one's private routine? Could you be meddling with a hornet's nest? Or is it actually better to routinely focus on such lofty thoughts versus what the average person might normally do (ie during orgasm you don't want to think about negative things so as to manifest them unconsciously)

Takamba

@Escarabaj said

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@JPF said
"
@Takamba said
"seriously?"

Quite.

Sexuality is closely linked to consciousness; the two go hand in hand.

"

So on this topic what is the general view towards masturbation and intention? I've read a lot of books talking about using it to charge sigils and whatnot. I have not read much on this forum relating to this however.

And similarly, including sex with a partner - is it best to keep any thoughts of magic, spirituality, etc. separate from one's private routine? Could you be meddling with a hornet's nest? Or is it actually better to routinely focus on such lofty thoughts versus what the average person might normally do (ie during orgasm you don't want to think about negative things so as to manifest them unconsciously)"

My god man! What negative thoughts could you have during an orgasm????

To quote Crowley, "every offering of this talisman infallibly begets children on one plane or another of this our cosmos, whose matter is so varied in kind. Such a child must partake of its father's nature; and its character will be determined, partly by the environment in which it is bred to manifestation, lives, and ultimately changes in what we call death, and partly by the inmost will of the father, perhaps modified to some extent by his conscious will at the time of his slipping the leash."

So, since we also know that all acts of ecstasy are to be considered acts of worship toward the goddess Nuit, I suppose this should answer your questions.

nashimiron

@Takamba said

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My god man! What negative thoughts could you have during an orgasm???? "

Come on, doesn't everybody think about drowning puppies when they're on the vinegar strokes?

Corvinae

"what is the general view towards masturbation and intention"

generally speaking, for me at least...

everything though, every act for me is best done with a loving intention....

when I process my garbage
when I wash my body
when I cook my food

everything is best done intentionaly, and from love......
as an offering.
now do I always have a specific goal---ie to create a thought form.....to charge a talismen...to walk between the worlds..
sometimes it is a much more lofty intention, such as I have a need to release some tension, so that I can better be present...

but thats me:)

Mephisto

@Escarabaj said

"So on this topic what is the general view towards masturbation and intention? I've read a lot of books talking about using it to charge sigils and whatnot. I have not read much on this forum relating to this however.

And similarly, including sex with a partner - is it best to keep any thoughts of magic, spirituality, etc. separate from one's private routine? Could you be meddling with a hornet's nest? Or is it actually better to routinely focus on such lofty thoughts versus what the average person might normally do (ie during orgasm you don't want to think about negative things so as to manifest them unconsciously)"

Well, considering that the sex-impulse is the most powerful and active force in nature...you decide!

This isn't directed at you, but I think it's funny how many aspirants want to jump directly into Sex Magick--before they've even mastered the basics! It's pretty useless in general, and liable to backfire until one is well established in Dhyana, Asana, and all the other basics.

And who could think of negative things during an orgasm? I usually just go blank and picture a rushing light pervading the universe.