Liber 440, The Book of Perfection
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Meh. Someone else thinks they can write holy books. Why is it these new gods all have terrible grammar and little sense of punctuation or typefaces? I get a few of these in my inbox every year.
Mostly, it just reads like a rip-off of Liber AL, which the author thought to include so you could see how bad the plagiarism is. (how kind)
There are a few nice ideas in there, though, so it's not without merit when it's being original.
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You think it might have something to do with an order of audibly recognized cognates that don't fully translate into written speech? In other words, one brain language attempting to speak but not fully passing the test of the logical linearity of grammar, yet still proposing something meaningful that can only be perceived if you temporarily turn off that mental screen..?
Kind of like expecting a text to speak to say... 3 different worlds at once, just for example... The lack of the precision of punctuation can allow for the message to apply to the other 2 worlds as well.
Both Greek and Hebrew were originally written and read this way, and I suspect it played into their spiritual interpretations as well. The precision to prevent such alternate readings is relatively new and highly beneficial, though at times limiting.
My two... Thoughts?
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Just the terrible writings of someone else taking their attainment two seriously. I have issue with the thelemitea of jihhad. It reminds me of the whole army of razor BS. Give me a frigging break. This kind of writing does not hold up to the test of the Holy Books of Thelema with gematria and so forth. The call to arms BS makes me nauseous someone obvisously missed the boat on that one.
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Oh, I haven't read this particular one. I was just speaking in general about the whole "spelling is defunct" thing.
Yeah, I've written at least one good manic "call to arms" notebook myself. I agree, it doesn't mean anything to the rest of the world except that I have a record of when I went swimming in the crazy pool. Regardless of its ability to speak to anyone else, it still speaks to me and reminds me of that experience and period of my life.
Sometimes I ponder the whole "call to arms" motif as perhaps the "voice" of one interior planet calling to rouse the others into action - a call to my own interior world in some way. It might have some value for others in this same way, but you're absolutely correct, nothing compares to the quality of the internal confirmations found in Liber AL - at least nothing I've seen so far.
Just thoughts.
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@TheSilent1 said
"Just the terrible writings of someone else taking their attainment two seriously. I have issue with the thelemitea of jihhad. It reminds me of the whole army of razor BS. Give me a frigging break. This kind of writing does not hold up to the test of the Holy Books of Thelema with gematria and so forth. The call to arms BS makes me nauseous someone obvisously missed the boat on that one."
That may be true, (keep in mind I havent read the quoted book above). But remember the 'Holy Books' were compiled mostly of A.C if not all of it, who ofcourse was still human, and alos took his attainment seriously, and issued his own 'bible' so to speak. Not bashing on him, but as Jim quoted Crowley in his book MMSAA, Crowley warns alos against being too atatched to any one particular author, including Crowley. My point is Crowley wasnt the only one who could write a book. Which gives room for other people to grow, and add good books, like jim:D. But if that book is really crappy, then ile ile qutoe Jim. "It is what it is".
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I too must admit to this particular sin, I spent about a week just writing when I was serving overseas, anything to alleviate the boredom.
But I'm not so far gone to think that it would be of any interest to anyone but myself, I think of it as an exercise in automatic writing, I might go and dig it out and have a look, might be scary.
I reckon it's more than likely just subconscious plagiarism.
I will more than likely want to burn after reading too
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Personally I think that people should make such automatic writing public, including their doubts about it. What annoys me the most about Liber 440 is that he doesn't make a scan or copy of the original handwritten manuscript available to the public. According to the document, he was instructed to send the original to the OTO, but regardless of such an instruction a copy should have been made and included in order to parallel Liber AL. Without such a handwritten manuscript, even the claim of having used automatic writing is called into question, unnecessarily. So in order to avoid being hoaxed, I must suppose that this is a deliberate forgery.
Anyway, on Monday I did a Google search for the phrase "Megathon Tiribillium" from page 79 of Liber 440, which at the time Google interpretted as misspelling. When I do a Google search for that phrase now, less than three days later, its does not interpret it as a misspelling. Anyway, on Monday Google redirected to an article that contained the words "megaton" and "Tribolium". Namely, this article:
www.entsoc.org/pubs/periodicals/ae/ae-2001/fall/busswords.pdf
Which states:
"Probably the first study done to determine
the effects of radiation on insects dates
back to 1919 when W. P. Davey tested the
effects of small doses of X-rays on the longevity
of Tribolium confusum; surprisingly,
Davey found that chronic exposure to Xrays
at a dose of about 60 rads actually prolonged
the life of this flour beetle. This finding
evidently languished in the literature for
about 37 years until a dubious J. M. Cork
(1957) repeated the study under more controlled
conditions and to his dismay obtained
essentially the same result (concluding
his paper with the remark, “It is hoped
that the results reported on a simple structure
of this kind will not be construed as a
license for X-ray practitioners to become less
critical of recognized safety factors in dealing
with the human organism”)."So one of the beetles most likely to eat cake (a flour beetle), has some mysterious resistance to radiation, such that radiation actually prolongs its life. Being quite surprise by this, and also finding out that they are edible, I suddenly became interested in actually carrying out the ritual of slaying and eating them, even if I need to deliberately introduce them to the cakes of light. Partly, I am also curious whether eating them confers to humans some of the beetle's resistance to radiation or other envrionmental contaminants. But partly, just the fact of having been surprise at this account, makes me more willing to carry out the magickal experiment commanded by Aiwass in the original transmission of Liber AL vel Legis.
So I was curious whether anybody had any other such accounts about Liber 440, that they may be holding back because they are still skeptical of its authenticity, as I am? What I am thinking, to be more clear, is that Aiwass may not be allowing the hoaxer to use his name in total vanity, but may have slipped in some original information, in a way that only a higher intelligence could, without really validating the hoax per se.
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@Alias55A said
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@TheSilent1 said
"Just the terrible writings of someone else taking their attainment two seriously. I have issue with the thelemitea of jihhad. It reminds me of the whole army of razor BS. Give me a frigging break. This kind of writing does not hold up to the test of the Holy Books of Thelema with gematria and so forth. The call to arms BS makes me nauseous someone obvisously missed the boat on that one."That may be true, (keep in mind I havent read the quoted book above). But remember the 'Holy Books' were compiled mostly of A.C if not all of it, who ofcourse was still human, and alos took his attainment seriously, and issued his own 'bible' so to speak. Not bashing on him, but as Jim quoted Crowley in his book MMSAA, Crowley warns alos against being too atatched to any one particular author, including Crowley. My point is Crowley wasnt the only one who could write a book. Which gives room for other people to grow, and add good books, like jim:D. But if that book is really crappy, then ile ile qutoe Jim. "It is what it is"."
Beyond the Holy Books of the Thelema we have The Torah, The Koran, The Bible etc.. all of which we have tools of testing their magical validity i.e. gematria. The language of all these Holy Books contains a level of profound significance. Someone on this thread said that "automatic" writings should be published I might add that Crowley stressed that the BOL was not automatic writing. I personally take the Holy Books as literary examples of achieving particular states of consciousness. Not to mention the kabbalistic synchronicites within his writings are deep and profond. I wish my pc with my notes on the kabbalah of liber tzaddi didn't get baked it blew my mind.
This liber 440 is a book of incoherent ramblings of an unfocused mind. I am not discounting the authenticity of praeternatural communication, but the profundity of the message is lost in the mire. The writer seems so hopelessly lost in Crowley's imagery that it more or less makes the book useless even for study. It is rather trivial in message as well. I have a hard time believing that Aiwass felt that there was anything to expand on and if so why choose a lesser vessel than Crowley? People need to let go of the paradigm and see past the symbols if Thelema is ever going to move forward. Learn to trample the shrine that you assemble so that the true image of God may shine through.
If you want to read something profound read Achad's 31 Hymns to the Star Goddess that in itself impressed Crowley greatly.
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What I mean is, I might be interested to see channeled writings with the original manuscript reproduced. I don't really care if it is automatic writing or otherwise.
But alas perhaps you are right, and this particular document is just the aftermath of one person's obsession with the imagery of Liber AL vel Legis.
. I can understand a bloody sacrifice, and eating that, or a bloody orgy. But bugs....::::shruggs:::