Accepting the Law of Thelema
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I imagine a world where the Law of Thelema holds sway, and most people still think that Crowley was a sicko.
Sometimes, I wonder if Crowley's reputation were a gift to future masses, saving them from yet another aeon where they have yet another demigod to look up to...
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Yes!
After first reading of The Book Of The Law, which for awhile knew I had to at least read but avoided with disgust, fear, dread, and worry of unleashing all the hounds of hell into my living room. After reading, I was stunned and thought, "What have I done"! I was physically sick. He is the Wickedest Man on Earth! Chapter 3 got me.
I persisted with the guidance from the HGA.
In 1997 I took an Oath and swore that it would be my sole rule of life with no turning back. From that day until now, I am sure I have failed every single day in living up to that oath, but I continue to persist in the right understanding and application of the Law of Thelema.
Thanks for asking. This forum helps a great deal in better understanding. Thanks, All!
Marc
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I first read Liber legis in about 1998-2000, i forget exactly, it struck an instant chord, but I still had a lot of crap in my head to get out.
so far I have found that ignoring its message brings suffering, usually in the form of trying too hard to please other people or fit in to their expectations, and usually failing when my internal nature makes itself felt.
I fully accepted the Law, cutting off all that went against it only a few months ago, and for want of A better way of putting it, finally really alive after 30 years of half hearted living. -
I still say
Had! the manifestation of Nuit
is the first words in the Law of Thelema. Since the law does not refer to some subset of the words but to the entire text.HAD!
the particular the individual point perspective. The exclamation indicates that it stands alone, Exclaming it's own existence.Then the other part "The manifestation of Nuit"
This is a commentary upon HAD!
The self proclaiming it's own existence, (Being formulating Dasein) is in fact the manifestation of NuitThat is the kinetic activation of the infinite potential. The finite concentration and expression of the infinite.
Thus is the beginning of the LAW. Where the WILL first comes into Being.
HAD! child of the cosmic womb fist opens it's eye and the world manifests. The Khabs becomes enveloped in the Khu from this point on.
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93,
Froclown wrote:"Since the law does not refer to some subset of the words but to the entire text. "
Then why does the Book say " Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law? That is, doing one's Will is the entirety of the Law of Thelema? The rest of the Book is sublime explication.
93 93/93,
Edward
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@Froclown said
"I still say
Had! the manifestation of Nuit
is the first words in the Law of Thelema. Since the law does not refer to some subset of the words but to the entire text.HAD!
the particular the individual point perspective. The exclamation indicates that it stands alone, Exclaming it's own existence.Then the other part "The manifestation of Nuit"
This is a commentary upon HAD!
The self proclaiming it's own existence, (Being formulating Dasein) is in fact the manifestation of NuitThat is the kinetic activation of the infinite potential. The finite concentration and expression of the infinite.
Thus is the beginning of the LAW. Where the WILL first comes into Being.
HAD! child of the cosmic womb fist opens it's eye and the world manifests. The Khabs becomes enveloped in the Khu from this point on."
Then I say you are making an error. Nuit was speaking those words in the Book of the Law ("This that thou writest is the threefold book of Law.") Therefore, since She didn't say (nor did Aiwass relate) "This that thou writest is the Law," we know "HAD" is not a word of the Law but a word about the Law. Then later She says, "There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt." And later still Aiwass relates from Her, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. "
The W H O L E of the Law.
"The word of the Law is THELEMA"
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If I write a book of laws, then all the words in that book are the laws, and stipulations of those laws.
One does not take say the 10,000 page "Obamacare" health bill, and claim that the law is only 11 words taken out of the middle of it. The Law is the entire Bill voted into active enforcement.
The WHOLE of the law, mean the law when taken in total, the general scheme of it, the ideal behind which all the verses are driving at.
The Word of the LAW is Thelema. the word of the Aeon in "ABRA-HAD-ABRA"
Again HAD! is the WILL it is the dynamic self, The GOING itself is Hadit.
Thus just as the entire law is summed up in "Do what thou Wilt"
it is also summed up in "HAD!"
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@Froclown said
"If I write a book of laws, then all the words in that book are the laws, and stipulations of those laws.
One does not take say the 10,000 page "Obamacare" health bill, and claim that the law is only 11 words taken out of the middle of it. The Law is the entire Bill voted into active enforcement.
The WHOLE of the law, mean the law when taken in total, the general scheme of it, the ideal behind which all the verses are driving at.
The Word of the LAW is Thelema. the word of the Aeon in "ABRA-HAD-ABRA"
Again HAD! is the WILL it is the dynamic self, The GOING itself is Hadit.
Thus just as the entire law is summed up in "Do what thou Wilt"
it is also summed up in "HAD!"
The rest is just elaboration."LOL. Sorry, couldn't help that.
It is not called "The Book of the Laws," it is called
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The Torah is called the "Book of the Law" also.
And the first word of the law is.
×ך×ש×תThe Talmud is an excellent companion to the Torah.
Likewise the first word of the LAW is HAD!
Crowley's companion to the law, is useful but it is not the LAW, it is no different that the Talmud is to the Torah.
There is no verse in the book that can stand on it's own, and yet every verse MUST stand on it's own.
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@Froclown said
"The Torah is called the "Book of the Law" also.
And the first word of the law is.
×ך×ש×תThe Talmud is an excellent companion to the Torah.
Likewise the first word of the LAW is HAD!
Crowley's companion to the law, is useful but it is not the LAW, it is no different that the Talmud is to the Torah.
There is no verse in the book that can stand on it's own, and yet every verse MUST stand on it's own."
As was pointed out in another thread:
The Comment
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
The study of this Book is forbidden. It is wise to destroy this copy after the first reading.
Whosoever disregards this does so at his own risk and peril. These are most dire.
Those who discuss the contents of this Book are to be shunned by all, as centres of pestilence.
All questions of the Law are to be decided only by appeal to my writings, each for himself.
There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt.Love is the law, love under will.
The priest of the princes,
Ankh-f-n-khonsuSo I think that the underlined statement there should answer all current questions.
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Takamba said
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@Froclown said
"It any event, the comment is certainly not part of the book of the law, which begins with HAD! and ends with "the word Abrahadabra""That's true."
No it isn't. There are 11 more words following."
Yes, thank you - I stand corrected. The book ends with
The Book of the Law is Written
and Concealed.
Aum. Ha.
I was merely reflecting on the statement "the comment is...not part of the book of the law." I wasn't cautious enough to pay attention to all what I was quoting. Thank you Jim for bringing this error to our attention. I had a hunch I was being hasty just as I hit Submit.
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I think the Law maybe the only thing I have ever accepted.....
I do not except many things......
and so I always thought I didnt accept the Law,
for it proclaims (?) that I must accept things that I find unexceptable......GD english language..
A funny thing happened shortly before I last posted. Not funny ha ha, but funny like "oh, that's notable."
I was given the title Master.
Seriously, I know some of you will laugh, and others may cry, but I am, on legal paper now, with full privileges allowed to call my self Master.
The inside joke is that I am the Cub Master, of the local pack 140 here in upstate NY.
Just as a side note, no the world will not get to see me in that costum/uniform....I had been fighting with this for awhile. I do not sign the dotted line often, and have never ever willingly given out my SS#, nor allowed a background check (Which I will proudly boast, I have a spotless record-not even a traffic violation). I have never been a joiner of any sort, and do not take oaths lightly. I decided though that the boys in this community needed someone, and if no one else was willing or able to.....I could give it a go and at least if I failed, the boys would have another belt loop and some popcorn. I would do something, something that no other person in my community was willing to do.
As I filled out the "application" I was immediately brought to the fact that not only was I to under go a criminal check, but that my signature (gasp) made me in agreement to allow them to look into my economics, my CREDIT. What, what what??? why does BSoA want to check out my credit score? Well girls and boys, that is truly the only score that matters in this day and age (I could challenge that statement my self, but I am trying to be brief).
Now I am slightly interested, I wont say I am concerned, cause I am not.....but I am interested in what this is score is going to say.
When they look at me, what will they see??????
What do you see when you look at me?
What do I see....
he he he ....
well that's the important question, now isn't it.But anyways, back to me being called Master.
I would like to change that to Mistress, or even Madam, cause I am all girl in outward appearances:)
So my boys call me Miss Veronica, and I have 30 little eyes that gaze up at me, and look to me to lead them, and teach them, and help them to be....and become...the men of tomorrow. And then I have 60 big eyes, watching me like a hawk.
Do you have any idea of what that means to me, little luscious, voluptuous Veronica The Priestess of Love, the Mistress of Passion and Gatekeeper to Bliss? Well I am the sort who doesn't shirk away from light, to hide in the shadows afraid of....of....well I don't seem to have much fear at all anymore.
In my troop I have a bunch of extremely fundamental couples, my parents are church goers, police officers, educators, military, and blue collar tradesmen. So why on Earth would these sort of people hand over their little boys to a female, who is an open occultist, rebel, activist, outlandish nonconformist who drips sexuality non stop? They have to know what sort of influence I will have on the boys, yet they trust me with their most beloved.....They have gotten to look past those labels and found the inner me, the cheerful, happy, loving, fun sort who has strength and courage and an intoxicating voice......These little boys (and their parents!) each have a need and a purpose and my new job is to play with them and help them discover themselves and this reality.
In my training I have become very attuned to the fact that each aspect of life force (i.e. human beings) has its own unique frequency, and interference pattern. I have come to see that when life force frequencies become untuned they can become retuned by unique methods to that particular life force pattern. To put it plainly, each person has its own function, its own patterns, and when sick its own medicine. I have come to see that the role of a Master (Mistress!) is in knowing what each of the life forces in the proximity needs to maintain life. I have in my care, almost 100 specific life forces that are almost completely dependant on me for their life to continue (I have 20+ houseplants, several gardens, not to mention chickens, ducks, dogs, kids and husband who is a Taurus:).
I hate the ego aspects of this BTW, but it is important to have a strong ego if you are going to do anything.If I do not pay attention (very important concept!) to the needs of those in my care they will wilt, wither and die in many cases.
I have learned to listen to the sounds of thirsty plants, hungry birds, dirty dogs, bored children
(I also unfortunately have learned to tune OUT the sounds of horney men, I would never get anything else done if I didn't!).Being a Mistress implies that I know what is best for those in my care. I know what YOU need. I can scan you quickly and find out with in a few moments what is wrong and what will fix it, and what is right and how to maximize that as well. I have often found my mind in a sort of flash back to a time in which I was in charge of a large number of Ladies, who were to be taught how to discern what something needs. In my work as a holistic care practioner I was instructed in methods of analysis to help match treatments to individuals. It was enlightening to learn that what heals one person could kill another, and that to be skilled as a healer one is to always remember that the patient is the one who does the healing not the "dr." who is only the matchmaker. I love being a matchmaker! Love it, love it love IT!!! nothing gives me more pleasure then matching things up, and putting things together- yummy, yummy, yummy stuff.
Yet I am human being, and I am not perfect and I do not always know what is right for me, so how could I assume to know what is right for all these life forces that I have gathered around me, and who look to me to meet their needs. What if I miss judge some signal, and my tomatoes plants succumbs to a blight that I miss judged as too much water? What if.......
well the what ifs can just about drive you mad cant they. If I sat around worrying about the what ifs then nothing would happen, I wouldn't do anything. I would live in a state of fear of failure, impotent, inert, afraid to DO.......But Being a Master implies that I have the heart to try, to act, to give it a go, to take courage and stand up and let the light shine and shine as well as I might.
And if I am wrong, so be it....but the difference between lambs and lions is that a true Master will step up again.I don't like people calling me Master, I don't like hearing anyone call anyone else master.....it just rubs me wrong..gag reflex kicks in and I toss my cookies...
To me being a slave is not acting, is not doing, and is not shining. A slave is not shinning her/his own light, but is like the moon: a reflection but not a source.
While I love the moon for what it is.......
it is the moon
And I am a Star, and like attracts like.
But yet.......
Did you know that the concept of slave and master is as ancient as ancient can be.
It is one dance that rides on a current that has countless choruses, and while the tempo may alter, the bass beat is as steady as a heart beat.So I get to play Master, and have been given a seal of approval to shine, shine shine....
And I will create little moons, little moonshine of me......
and my boys will grow up knowing my truths,
and my perspectives,
and loving me......Do what thou wilt,
shall be the whole of the Law.
Love is the Law
Love under will.It shall be the new scout law,
for inorder for a boy to become a scout
he must learn the law and follow his pack....and I know that my Best Beloved AC
would laugh and smile
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As a neo-Pelagian Christian, I accept the Law AS I UNDERSTAND IT. Does this make me a "Thelemite"? More importan, does anyone CARE?
My Christian sources have it that the original "Have love, and do what you will" is from St. Augustine.. but never seem to give a specific citation. Does anyone have light on this?
And where do Pierre Louys and the Code of Trypheme fit into the history?