Thelema and Virgins
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
In one article (About Women) Soror Meral said something very interesting. Namely, that female virgins are under direct influence of Mezla. Is it possible to get some additional explanation about this?
Love is the law, love under will.
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If you could cite the particular article and issue, one might be able to say more; but I suspect she meant this because (1) Mezla expresses through Gimel, and (2) Gimel is the virgin Moon.
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No problem.In the Continuum, Vol. II, No.6. Page 9.
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The ordinary, everyday woman is no more a Priestess or a Scarlet Woman than is the man who never bothers to develop his magical and spiritual self, a priest. Such feminine high offices demand a rigorous training, just as exacting as that which the man undergoes. It might be objected that the Priestess in the Gnostic Catholic Mass seems not ·to have to undergo such training but this is only if she is actually virgo intacta_ That is, she will never have had sex with a man. There is a peculiar spiritual quality to. some virgins, as they reflect the influences from Mezla. If she has once had sex this natural purity disappears and from then on, in order for her to be a "Virgin pure without spot", she must be wholly and entirely dedicated to her One Will, that is, the Knowledge and Conversation of her own Holy Guardian Angel. A description of what it means to be virgin, whether of male or female gender, is given in LIBER LXV, Cap. 5, vv. 9 and 10. Here is the utterance of the Holy Guardian Angel to the scribe, Crowley.- "But I have burnt within thee as a pure flame without oil. In the· midnight I was brighter than the moon; in the daytime I exceeded utterly the sun; in the byways of thy being I flamed, and dispelled the illusion." .
- "Therefore thou art wholly pure before Me; therefore thou art My virgin unto eternity."
In LIBER AL VEL LEGIS we read in Cap. I, vv. 44 and 45; "For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect. The Perfect and the Perfect are one Perfect and not two; nay are none!" Such perfection as is spoken of in the above can be applied to the perfection of male and female as they walk on this earth. This is not easy of attainment and it certainly implies that both male and female hav~ each only one Will as abov& described. "
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"There is a peculiar spiritual quality to. some virgins, as they reflect the influences from Mezla...."
I have come to understand that having sex changes you biochemically. Not only does your physical chemical make up transform, but your etheric or spiritual body, permanetely houses residual "tracks" of the encounter.
In what I have come to see, all women may start out virginal, but not many can become virginal.
Not sure about men at all. I would suspect it is a completely different mind game.
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"The ordinary, everyday woman is no more a Priestess or a Scarlet Woman than is the man who never bothers to develop his magical and spiritual self, a priest. Such feminine high offices demand a rigorous training, just as exacting as that which the man undergoes. It might be objected that the Priestess in the Gnostic Catholic Mass seems not ·to have to undergo such training but this is only if she is actually virgo intacta_ That is, she will never have had sex with a man. There is a peculiar spiritual quality to. some virgins, as they reflect the influences from Mezla. If she has once had sex this natural purity disappears and from then on, in order for her to be a "Virgin pure without spot", she must be wholly and entirely dedicated to her One Will, that is, the Knowledge and Conversation of her own Holy Guardian Angel. A description of what it means to be virgin, whether of male or female gender, is given in LIBER LXV, Cap. 5, vv. 9 and 10. Here is the utterance of the Holy Guardian Angel to the scribe, Crowley. "
As regards the Gnostic Mass, there is a curious footnote to the reference of the priestess being a Virgo Intacta in my copy of MTP:
"In Crowley's own copy of this work, he has written in the margin opposite the Priestess, 'i.e. a sworn whore'. The expression Virgo Intacta in this context is misleading. It means, in fact, that the woman who performs the function of the Priestess should be dedicated solely to the Great Work, like Artemis to Pan. 'A sworn whore' would therefore be a suitable candidate for the office, not a virgin in the ordinary sense."
This footnote was added by Kenneth Grant and John Symonds—the editors. It seems to be saying that the physical status of the priestess, virgin or not, is not the deciding condition here. The only consideration is devotion to the great work. And if there were any preference, as if to underscore this devotion, a non-virgin—a sworn whore, would be better, maybe because it echoes the symbolism of the Whore of Babylon?
This is a question. I feel as though I am missing something, especially in regards to the the statement quoted above about real virgins.
Love and Will
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The question for me is who is prohibited from taking on the duties?
Those who are sexually active who have not yet achieved K&C.
The potential for abuse (of a weak-willed female aspirant) by authority figures, or the reverse, if she abuses her own ceremonial role, is great.
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hmmm,
breeds more questions
@Aegis55 said
"The question for me is who is prohibited from taking on the duties?
Those who are sexually active who have not yet achieved K&C. "
I guess I had always assumed this was a ritual performed by people on the path as a way to advance in that path. Do you really think it is mandatory to have achieved the K&C? After all, isn't the role of priestess first and foremost to be a symbol, assumable by anyone who understands the symbolism and is in harmony with the greater objective?
@Aegis55 said
"The potential for abuse (of a weak-willed female aspirant) by authority figures, or the reverse, if she abuses her own ceremonial role, is great."
I'm just trying to wrap my head around this last idea. Can you be more specific about what you mean by abuse?
Love and Will
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@RobertAllen said
"hmmm,
breeds more questions
@Aegis55 said
"The question for me is who is prohibited from taking on the duties?
Those who are sexually active who have not yet achieved K&C. "
I guess I had always assumed this was a ritual performed by people on the path as a way to advance in that path. Do you really think it is mandatory to have achieved the K&C? After all, isn't the role of priestess first and foremost to be a symbol, assumable by anyone who understands the symbolism and is in harmony with the greater objective?"
Sorry, beyond my knowledge.
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@Aegis55 said
"The potential for abuse (of a weak-willed female aspirant) by authority figures, or the reverse, if she abuses her own ceremonial role, is great."I'm just trying to wrap my head around this last idea. Can you be more specific about what you mean by abuse?"
Abuse of the perceived power relationship for sexual gratification. The same kind of abuse that prevents psychologists from having sexual relationships with their clients.