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    Zos
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    So I came to the forum asking for protection from police and courts. Well -- I have been in a court for the entirety of the month of March. I suspect tomfoolery on the part of some clever person here at the forum. Would anyone here like to step forward and tell me something ?

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    Takamba
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    Locus of control www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newCDV_90.htm

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    Jim Eshelman
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    Yes, I would like to step forward and tell you that the first place to look for causes would be in your own choices and other actions.

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    @Zos said

    "So I came to the forum asking for protection from police and courts. Well -- I have been in a court for the entirety of the month of March. I suspect tomfoolery on the part of some clever person here at the forum. Would anyone here like to step forward and tell me something ?"

    I would but I took a vow of silence on the matter 😄

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    Avshalom Binyamin
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    Additionally, I would like to step forward and say your paranoia may be coming from denied guilt over your choices.

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    Zos
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    Yeah well, I would prefer the courts be in my control, at which point I could cause them to leave me alone at the behest of my willpower. This has failed to materialize. I'm ready to believe that I have power over them, and to engage in those methods which will do so. That is why I am here.

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    Uni_Verse
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    I apologize, it is all my fault.

    Go ahead: curse me, hate me, tell me of all the pain I have caused.

    Do you feel better now? 😄

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    Jim Eshelman
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    @Zos said

    "Yeah well, I would prefer the courts be in my control, at which point I could cause them to leave me alone at the behest of my willpower. This has failed to materialize. I'm ready to believe that I have power over them, and to engage in those methods which will do so. That is why I am here."

    You do realize (?) that this means that you are positing your individual wishes to be at odds with the collective (aggregate) will of people in your community?

    It seems much simpler just to obey reasonable laws and don't get caught violating unreasonable ones. 👿

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    Takamba
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    Power over? How about power through and power with? Seems a) more likely and b) much more empowering.

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    As an alternative, one can make a Talisman
    that brings good luck, or strength in confrontation with the forces of civil law.
    This will help anyone, even criminals, no doubt.
    But does the offender can do that, is an potential issue.
    Or if he asks someone else to do it for him . At the end of course.
    Perhaps some, it depends, would rather do it by himself.

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    Draco Magnus
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    Or you can become an outlaw, a sovereign individual ( I like this one); there are far too many unreasonable laws doing their best to control your behaviour.

    Having said that, I agree wholeheartedly that it's time to look at your own choices, and any denied guilt that may be floating in the back of your mind. This is a dig deep moment where you can learn alot about yourself. Remember, the people against you are simply a reflection of what's going on inside you.

    Lastly, if you want to influence the courts, you must learn their methods and procedures. Find out what appeals to them, and follow protocol in every instance. (Imagine walking into a meeting of Thelemites and saying "Christ be with you," or "You wouldn't believe what I found reading Matthew chapter 22 today"(Tip: wear a suit and tie, + large framed hipster glasses to appear innocent; you'd be surprised how many people show up in torn jeans, stained t-shirts and disheveled hair.) Be nice to the attorneys, they are all part of the program. Oh, and the more you fight, the longer it'll drag out.

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    I was summoned to a criminal court as a juror.

    In every case I tried to free every accused that came before the bench, in hopes of obtaining karma to a small degree. When the momentum of the group found anyone guilty - I would use every device I knew to envelop them with protection. I hope I was able to make a small change, but group-think is often too powerful.

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    Archaeus
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    @Zos said

    "I was summoned to a criminal court as a juror.

    In every case I tried to free every accused that came before the bench, in hopes of obtaining karma to a small degree. When the momentum of the group found anyone guilty - I would use every device I knew to envelop them with protection. I hope I was able to make a small change, but group-think is often too powerful."

    That makes no sense.

    Sometimes people are actually guilty you know?

    Group-think may be distasteful, but it's not always wrong.

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