One Magus, two words?
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@Patthana Gati said
"Crowley was given the word Abracadabra to play with as a GD Neophyte. In 1900 Mexico, he discovered the lost word and also changed Abracadabra to Abrahadabra - since the latter contains all the letters of the former."
I was about to say the same thing. ABRAHADABRA came first, whereas Thelema first comes into his writing in Liber al.
So Thelema is the word of the Law (says so explicitly in the book) which makes abrahadabra the word of the Aeon. -
Yes, that's the reason it would make more sense that Thelema should be the Word of the Aeon and Abrahadabra Crowley's personal Word. Well, actually, it doesn't, because that's not the case. Still, one way or another, I don't get "who" uttered the "extra" Word.
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The number of ABRAHADABRA is 0.
ABRAH = 209
ADABRA = 209The five-lettered part stands for microcosm, the six-lettered part for macrocosm. So they complement each other.
209 - 209 = 0.
Then, this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_theory
Especially look at the concepts of difference and unity.
This is why I claim that ABRAHADABRA is a word of which THELEMA is a special case.
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@Patrick Ossoski said
"Yes, that's the reason it would make more sense that Thelema should be the Word of the Aeon and Abrahadabra Crowley's personal Word. Well, actually, it doesn't, because that's not the case. Still, one way or another, I don't get "who" uttered the "extra" Word."
Well lets see: We know that Abrahadabra occurred prior to the reception of liber al, although I'm not sure where exactly it came from, perhaps someone can fill us in on that one. But since liber al was dictated by Aiwass then "Thelema" must have been uttered by him.
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@Simon Iff said
"How would it be a problem if Thelema was the deepest principle of, well, Thelema, and ABRAHADABRA was a more general principle than that?
And, who says ABRAHADABRA doesn't also stem from OIVZ?"
It wouldn't be a problem, but it doesn't address my original question, unless we really assume that Aiwass uttered one or both words, but that would lead to a different discussion as I know you're aware. (And if I understand you correctly, I can say I share the same view.)
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@Archaeus said
"You're screwed if you over-think these things. reasonableness doesn't always work in an unreasonable Universe
"If you haven't reasoned it out yet, doesn't nescessarily mean that the universe is unreasonable
@Patrick Ossoski said
"It wouldn't be a problem, but it doesn't address my original question, unless we really assume that Aiwass uttered one or both words, but that would lead to a different discussion as I know you're aware. (And if I understand you correctly, I can say I share the same view.)"
I assume that Aiwass uttered both words.
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Abrahadabra is the "Word of the Aeon." of Horus.
Thelema is the "Word of the Law" uttered in The Book of the Law and is (invariably?) given as the Word Crowley as Magus was given to utter.
That's the distinction that's always given: Abrahadabra is the Word of the Aeon. Thelema is the Word of the Law.
Until this very moment it had never occurred to me that this answers your other questions - concerning multiple magi per aeon.
No, each of the "eight magi" had their own Word but not their own aeon. (Several of them were concurrent) They are examples of those magi who do not not inaugurate aeons but nonetheless attain the grade. (See One Star in Sight.) Those coming after the inaugural Magus have words that in some fashion conform or reflect that of the inaugural Magus. (I leave it to you to sort out the pieces of this in the 8 magi on record to date).
This may also appl to non-Magi working within the stream. For example, my 1985 magical retreat delivered to me, in its last minutes, the phrase that fully aticulated my True Will, everything I had been doing unconsciously all of my life, everything I'd been unthinkingly preparing for: "Train all to know and to do their True Will." Wanting to reduce it to a single word, I broke it down Qabalistically to LAHVTY (Lahoti). It enumerates to 61, which wa a warm belly-laugh of an inside joke for me. - Sometime later my mind went to, "Yes, this is for me, but it's not whatI would utter." I realized that the message, from this, that I would utter to others was, "Learn to know and do you True Will!" It meant dropping the Lamed from the front. The resulting word - AHVTI (Ahoti) - enumerates to 31.
This wasn't the Word of a Magus, but he Word of a Zelator. It has served me in my life very well since then, though. (To anticipate questions: This is the articulation for my present articulation. Later work [many years later] revealed another forumla of which this is a subset, and which has been my formula across lives as far as I can track. But that's all a digression, not intended to hijack this thread.)
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POSTSCRIPT - Speculation....
Aum strikes me as an Isis Aeon word.
Amoun strikes me superficially as an Osiris Aeon word, but it's an obvious development from Aum. It is likely a transition word (like the passwords of Masonry that exist only when passing from one grade to the next.)
Y.H.V.H. is the first solidly Osiris Aeon word, and might be considered The Word of the Aeon of Osiris.
Tao seems to me to continue to Isis thread and Anatta could be either (but, in superficially speaking of No self, effectively starts speaking of a self that is motion and changing). I'm inclined to say that these roughly concurrent Magi words express different aeonic threads.
I.N.R.I., as it first appeared, is an obvious extension of Y.H.V.H. Then, Allah, while solidly a word (in application) of the Osiris Aeon, seems to me to have elements of Tahuti's word Amoun, being a bridge word or password. (Has Muhammed uttered Islam as his word, it would have been nearly synonymous with Thelema; but the world wasn't ready for that.)
Just speculation...
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@Jim Eshelman said
"That's the distinction that's always given: Abrahadabra is the Word of the Aeon. Thelema is the Word of the Law.
Until this very moment it had never occurred to me that this answers your other questions - concerning multiple magi per aeon.
No, each of the "eight magi" had their own Word but not their own aeon. (Several of them were concurrent) They are examples of those magi who do not not inaugurate aeons but nonetheless attain the grade.
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... revealed another formula of which this is a subset, and which has been my formula across lives as far as I can track."
This.
I would like to add that the "personal word" will be of a more general principle than an aeonic word ... as the former has to last and function for much longer than the latter.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Abrahadabra is the "Word of the Aeon." of Horus.
Thelema is the "Word of the Law" uttered in The Book of the Law and is (invariably?) given as the Word Crowley as Magus was given to utter.
That's the distinction that's always given: Abrahadabra is the Word of the Aeon. Thelema is the Word of the Law.
Until this very moment it had never occurred to me that this answers your other questions - concerning multiple magi per aeon.
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Enlightening as always. Thank you.
