Briatic Conscience
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It is said that no rules can be set about how a person can attains K&C but how about Briatic conscience? What are the conditions necessary to attain this experience?
As far as I know each the grades of the A.A. , below Adept and above Neophyte has a distinct technique to foster this opening. But is there a crucial condition like, when opening to Yetsirah the abstraction of the senses from Assiah?
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This awakening is the essential accomplishment of successfully completing the Task of Dominus Liminis in A.'.A.'.. suggest looking at the individual parts of the Task of that grade (or, perhaps reading my chapter on it in The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'., if you have it).
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@Faus said
"Thanks Jim, I am looking at it right now."
Let me know what you find and how it addresses your question, please. I'm interested to know its useful for this, and what it stirs in you.
My general sense (based on my own experience plus observation of others plus reading others' reports) is that the K&C exists within Briatic consciousness - that it is, so to speak, the lance that strikes piercingly into the heart of the grail that one has become. (Bizarrely, perhaps: I always say that without any intention of it being poetic. It's a best effort to describe experience.)
The difference between the 5=6 Without and 5=6 Within, then, is that one is open in Briah (specifically, Tifereth in Briah) - being the result of the concluded Dom. Lim. work - and the other goes one step farther of mating, as grail, to the lance (Briah mating with Atziluth).
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@Jim Eshelman said
" Let me know what you find and how it addresses your question, please. I'm interested to know its useful for this, and what it stirs in you. "
Although I did not find the specific term “Briatic conscience” (other than you, I’ve seen it only in the works of Melita & Osborn), there were a few points that I recognize the meaning as being the same.
The “control of intuition” seems to be a direct reference to the opening of Yetsirah to Briah. The method been basically intense Dharana at one hand and the inner balance, “the equilibrium of knowledge and power”, on the other.
In a large perspective I would summarize as: to get to Yetsirah shut down the senses, to get to Briah shut down the mind.
@Jim Eshelman said
"My general sense (based on my own experience plus observation of others plus reading others' reports) is that the K&C exists within Briatic consciousness - that it is, so to speak, the lance that strikes piercingly into the heart of the grail that one has become. (Bizarrely, perhaps: I always say that without any intention of it being poetic. It's a best effort to describe experience.)"
I’ve seen you using this analogy before and It was quite helpful to understand that the HGA is perceived in a state of consciences whose very nature is a paradox for the Ruach. It changed my whole perspective about most metaphysical stuff.
@Jim Eshelman said
"The difference between the 5=6 Without and 5=6 Within, then, is that one is open in Briah (specifically, Tifereth in Briah) - being the result of the concluded Dom. Lim. work - and the other goes one step farther of mating, as grail, to the lance (Briah mating with Atziluth)."
Would it be the same to say that the 5=6 Without has attained Samadhi (the conditions necessary to obtain Samadhi) but now she is looking for that specific Samadhi called K&C?
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@Faus said
"The “control of intuition” seems to be a direct reference to the opening of Yetsirah to Briah. The method been basically intense Dharana at one hand and the inner balance, “the equilibrium of knowledge and power”, on the other."
Note that most of the practices of 3=8 and, especially, of 4=7 involving bridging between Yetzirah and Briah. (1=10 opens to Yetzirah. 2=9 stabilizes that opening. 3=8 continues the stabilization of Yetzirah and starts to build bridges to Briah. 4=7 heavily builds bridges to Briah. Dom. Lim. completes the training in Yetzirah and consequently opens to Briah. 5=6 does something with that....)
"In a large perspective I would summarize as: to get to Yetsirah shut down the senses, to get to Briah shut down the mind."
Not bad!
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@Jim Eshelman said
"The difference between the 5=6 Without and 5=6 Within, then, is that one is open in Briah (specifically, Tifereth in Briah) - being the result of the concluded Dom. Lim. work - and the other goes one step farther of mating, as grail, to the lance (Briah mating with Atziluth)."Would it be the same to say that the 5=6 Without has attained Samadhi (the conditions necessary to obtain Samadhi) but now she is looking for that specific Samadhi called K&C?"
I wouldn't object too much to that wording. (My main objection is in the fuzziness of meta-samadhis of various types.)
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Note that most of the practices of 3=8 and, especially, of 4=7 involving bridging between Yetzirah and Briah. (1=10 opens to Yetzirah. 2=9 stabilizes that opening. 3=8 continues the stabilization of Yetzirah and starts to build bridges to Briah. 4=7 heavily builds bridges to Briah. Dom. Lim. completes the training in Yetzirah and consequently opens to Briah. 5=6 does something with that....)"
Well, that clarify how the A.A. curriculum has a cumulative effect. It is much easier to understand once the grades are mapped over the four worlds (well, maybe it is clear and I am a bit slow). I believe that the same dynamic is also applied to the Second Order grades.
@Jim Eshelman said
"Not bad!"
Easier said than done.
Well, after shutting down the mind, what would be left to shut down so the Adept can get to Atziluth? His tendencies?
Thanks for the answers Jim.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"My main objection is in the fuzziness of meta-samadhis of various types."
I have found the interpretative perspective useful that the "higher" forms of samadhi are dynamic reflections upon the samadhi state, and some very advanced versions having samadhi on the process of samadhi. Meta-samadhi literally. My own experiences, those I've heard from from other people and also Patanjali's take seem to support this POV.
@Faus said
"Well, after shutting down the mind, what would be left to shut down so the Adept can get to ..."
Shutting down the stuff that comes behind the mind, or, in other words, are the deep foundations of the mind - I always interpreted some of Kenneth Grant's stuff as musings about that.