Cosmic Mediumship
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93 All.
I just visited Gareth Knight home page were he makes the statement.
Dion Fortune developed powers of trance mediumship, apparently after the manner that she had observed practiced by Theodore Moriarty. This was also during the era of Alice Bailey when she made her first contacts with the Tibetan, when Olive Pixley developed her system of the Armour of Light under inner instruction, when W.B.Yeats received the complex teaching, through the automatic writing of his wife Georgie, that he later published as “A Vision”. And indeed if truth were told it was the modus operandi of pioneers of the previous generation, including the Secret Chiefs of the Golden Dawn, and the visions of Anna Kingsford that developed into the Hermetic Society, which was an immediate predecessor to the Golden Dawn and inspiration to Macgregor Mathers as he acknowledges in his dedication to her in “The Kaballah Unveiled”. Dion Fortune`s involvement in communications of this nature resulted in a body of teaching known as “The Cosmic Doctrine”. (The above was quoted from Gareth Knights Home page).
What Gareth Knight didn’t mention was A.C. reception of the Book of the Law. Or what I heard about Paul F Case’s The Book of Tokens, which I was told was channeled also?
These two books, The Book of the Law by A.C. & The Book of Tokens by PFC appear to be under similar circumstances as the authors sited in Gareth Knights article. Maybe this was an era that had an interest in that type of Spiritual Work?
So my questions are:
Is it common for Occult Orders to contact superior intelligences for occult teaching and practices? If so. Is it still possible to contact and receive instruction from Aiwass under proper conditions?Love is the law, love under will.
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@Fraterdeen said
"Is it common for Occult Orders to contact superior intelligences for occult teaching and practices?"
The key thing to get on ths topic is that (under normal circumstances) it is the Third Order that does the contacting - not the aspirant. As I used to say, "The Third Order has my telephone number, but that doesn't mean they've given me theirs."
The exceptions known to me occur once the door has been opened from within. That is, once Master R provided the means for Case to communicate with him, there were periods where this was undertaken regularly. And so forth.
"If so. Is it still possible to contact and receive instruction from Aiwass under proper conditions?"
I'm going to start by taking your question literally, and will answer it literally: Under proper conditions it's possible to do anything. That's what makes them proper conditions.
Beyond that... yes, it's been known to happen. Not as often as you'd like, perhaps, and not as rarely as you might think.
At a very different level than I think you meant to ask: This occurs to some extent whenever the Pentagram Ritual is done as Crowley taught in a group context.
BTW, based on means, I probably would have been this topic under Ceremonial Magick, not under Mysticism.
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93 All,
Thank you for your response Jim.
"Quote Jim:
The key thing to get on ths topic is that (under normal circumstances) it is the Third Order that does the contacting - not the aspirant."That make sense Jim, I like the words (under normal circumstances) because, A.C. wasn’t in the third Order nor PFC as far as I know, when they received there respective books to disseminate.
"Quote Jim:
The exceptions known to me occur once the door has been opened from within. That is, once Master R provided the means for Case to communicate with him, there were periods where this was undertaken regularly. And so forth. "I am curious if you can comment on what grade A.C. & PFC attained on the Tree of Life by the end of there lives?
On another tread you spoke of a unpublished book commissioned by B.O.T.A. that said something to the effect that PFC was greatly influenced by A.C. more so than what most people realize. I am just curious why PFC didn’t follow in A.C. foot steps?"Quote Jim:
As I used to say, "The Third Order has my telephone number, but that doesn't mean they've given me theirs." "
Right!
"Quote Jim:
At a very different level than I think you meant to ask: This occurs to some extent whenever the Pentagram Ritual is done as Crowley taught in a group context. "Yes, thank you Jim. Is this the Pentagram Ritual published In the Continuum Vol. I, No. I ?
"Quote Jim:
BTW, based on means, I probably would have been this topic under Ceremonial Magick, not under Mysticism."Duly noted Jim. Interesting, I would have thought it was the other way around. Just from my personal experience. I have always found it very easy to let my consciousness take the shapes and colors of the Atus-Keys during my meditations, hence Mysticism!
The point being. I have had an enormous amount of inner guidance from something with very simple practices such as looking at the Tarot. So the idea of Cosmic Mediumship really isn’t a jump for me.Btw, after looking through my diary I noticed that I found this forum while meditating on ATU-5 The Hierophant and ATU-14 Art. I am sure it was just a coincidence.
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@Fraterdeen said
"That make sense Jim, I like the words (under normal circumstances) because, A.C. wasn’t in the third Order nor PFC as far as I know, when they received there respective books to disseminate."
No, no, you're missing the point: It isn't (under normal circumstances) the magician at all who does the contacting. The magician is the recipient.
Crowley didn't do the contacting for Liber Legis - he was contacted. The Third Order contacted him (as it contacted Case).
And so forth.
"I am curious if you can comment on what grade A.C. & PFC attained on the Tree of Life by the end of there lives?"
Crowley attained 10=1 in the late 1930s. Case was 7=4 at his death as far as we know.
"On another tread you spoke of a unpublished book commissioned by B.O.T.A. that said something to the effect that PFC was greatly influenced by A.C. more so, than what most people realize. I am just curious why PFC didn’t follow in A.C. foot steps?"
He thought he was a tragically flawed genius. One of the problems he had was with Liber E - he believed the practice of the pranayama exercises as given in there could cause serious damage except under a skilled guru's direct care. He regularly told people to read Crowley's works for the theory, but don't do any of the practices. (Case wasn't against practices - quite the contrary - he just thought most of them should only be undertaken under the direct jurisdiction of an in-person teacher.)
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"BTW, based on means, I probably would have been this topic under Ceremonial Magick, not under Mysticism."Duly noted Jim. Interesting, I would have thought it was the other way around. Just from my personal experience."
The method is magical. It is result-driven. It particularizes an outcome rather than dissolving into zero.
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93,
"Crowley attained 10=1 in the late 1930s."
According to Lawrence Sutin's biography, Do What Thou Wilt, AC took this initiation in April 1921 (pg 290 in the 2000 St. Martin's Griffin paperback edition). Was this a situation like his 8=3, where it was several years before he felt the initiation was completed, and that he could claim the grade? Or did he feel the 1921 ceremony was flawed in some way?
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Edward -
You may be right on the date - I was going from memory, being away from home and all references, and, now that I think about it, was probably wrong. (I should have said late 1920s in any ase - maybe it was earlier - I have the main diary entry in my papers somewhere.)