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Earliest reference to magical powers / trances

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    Liber 777, Column 45, line 3 lists the vision of sorrow in Binah.

    I remember Crowley claiming he wrote much of this book from memory. Is anyone aware of an earlier reference giving this attribution? Dion Fortune gives the same attribution in Mystical QBL.

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    She probably got it from him - she's quite clear that 777 was one of her references.

    It's a traditional attribution and upheld by mystical experience. Unfortunately, I can't, at the moment, put my hands on an earlier writing that used it.

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    @Almighty Creator said

    "Liber 777, Column 45, line 3 lists the vision of sorrow in Binah.

    I remember Crowley claiming he wrote much of this book from memory. Is anyone aware of an earlier reference giving this attribution? Dion Fortune gives the same attribution in Mystical QBL."

    Its unlikely that there is an existence for this beyond Crowley.

    You might ask yourself 'What is the vision of sorrow anyhow?'

    Crowley supposedly had it around 1897 and it meant a dissatisfaction with and seeing the futility of all worldly endeavors. You might also say it refers to the Buddhist understanding of the First Noble Truth... You might also say it refers to the Crossing of the Abyss, since its in Binah...

    IAO131

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    @Jim Eshelman said

    "She probably got it from him - she's quite clear that 777 was one of her references.

    It's a traditional attribution and upheld by mystical experience. Unfortunately, I can't, at the moment, put my hands on an earlier writing that used it."

    I thought she had. I agree with the attribution, I'm just trying to pin down the historical origin of it. Are you aware, Jim, of perhaps some golden dawn papers that list this attribution from which Crowley might have drawn? Or do you suppose that he placed the attribution there, naturally, as a matter of personal experience?

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