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The making of a probationers robe.

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  • D daredevil92103

    I am currently trying to procure the things needed to make my probationer's robe. i'm not very good at sewing (the gods only know what this thing will turn out looking like 😆 )
    anyone know a good general pattern to go but when actually making the thing?
    the symbols i am not worried about, just the robe.
    i am aware of the deliberate blind in all the pics one can find of the robe, and can procure the correct symbols.

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    nashimiron
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    It's all a question of proportions.

    😉

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    • D daredevil92103

      I am currently trying to procure the things needed to make my probationer's robe. i'm not very good at sewing (the gods only know what this thing will turn out looking like 😆 )
      anyone know a good general pattern to go but when actually making the thing?
      the symbols i am not worried about, just the robe.
      i am aware of the deliberate blind in all the pics one can find of the robe, and can procure the correct symbols.

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      sesheta156
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      @Jim Eshelman said

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      The gold braid usually would be metallic (though some choose a nonmetallic gold ribbon or braid). The pentagram and hexagram... there's no exact specification. (Vivid colors are usually thought desirable, so felt is often used.) BTW I assume you know that several pictures of the Probationer's robe survive from a hundred years ago."

      93 - i have exactly that ? about what material is used for the pentagram and hexagram... i was thinking satin was in order, but found some of the colors available at the store weren't what i was looking for (in terms of shade). so, your recommendation is FELT?

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      • D daredevil92103

        I am currently trying to procure the things needed to make my probationer's robe. i'm not very good at sewing (the gods only know what this thing will turn out looking like 😆 )
        anyone know a good general pattern to go but when actually making the thing?
        the symbols i am not worried about, just the robe.
        i am aware of the deliberate blind in all the pics one can find of the robe, and can procure the correct symbols.

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        Archaeus
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        @sesheta156 said

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        @Jim Eshelman said
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        The gold braid usually would be metallic (though some choose a nonmetallic gold ribbon or braid). The pentagram and hexagram... there's no exact specification. (Vivid colors are usually thought desirable, so felt is often used.) BTW I assume you know that several pictures of the Probationer's robe survive from a hundred years ago."

        93 - i have exactly that ? about what material is used for the pentagram and hexagram... i was thinking satin was in order, but found some of the colors available at the store weren't what i was looking for (in terms of shade). so, your recommendation is FELT?"

        Actually you can use Red ribbon for the pentagram, red and blue for the hexagram, and the same gold ribbon as you use for the trim can be used to make the Tau cross, that's what I used and the result turned out pretty good.

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        • D daredevil92103

          I am currently trying to procure the things needed to make my probationer's robe. i'm not very good at sewing (the gods only know what this thing will turn out looking like 😆 )
          anyone know a good general pattern to go but when actually making the thing?
          the symbols i am not worried about, just the robe.
          i am aware of the deliberate blind in all the pics one can find of the robe, and can procure the correct symbols.

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          Alien696
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          There is a problem with felt though.. as when it get's wet it starts to leak it's colour into the surrounding cloth.
          We are making a probationer's robe here and we use "band".
          Sorry that i don't know the english word.
          Oh and i intend to use the names on the sides of the stone on the tau cross in hebrew.
          I also am fidding around with the idea of doing pentagrammaton for the pentagram on the front.
          Is that ok you guys and gals think?

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          • D daredevil92103

            I am currently trying to procure the things needed to make my probationer's robe. i'm not very good at sewing (the gods only know what this thing will turn out looking like 😆 )
            anyone know a good general pattern to go but when actually making the thing?
            the symbols i am not worried about, just the robe.
            i am aware of the deliberate blind in all the pics one can find of the robe, and can procure the correct symbols.

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            Jim Eshelman
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            It's no longer an A.'.A.'. Robe if u do that. It's something else.

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            • D daredevil92103

              I am currently trying to procure the things needed to make my probationer's robe. i'm not very good at sewing (the gods only know what this thing will turn out looking like 😆 )
              anyone know a good general pattern to go but when actually making the thing?
              the symbols i am not worried about, just the robe.
              i am aware of the deliberate blind in all the pics one can find of the robe, and can procure the correct symbols.

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              Archaeus
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              Best to just follow your neophyte's instructions.

              If you don't have a neophyte then do as you Will, but as Jim says, it won't be a Probationers robe.

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              • D daredevil92103

                I am currently trying to procure the things needed to make my probationer's robe. i'm not very good at sewing (the gods only know what this thing will turn out looking like 😆 )
                anyone know a good general pattern to go but when actually making the thing?
                the symbols i am not worried about, just the robe.
                i am aware of the deliberate blind in all the pics one can find of the robe, and can procure the correct symbols.

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                Alien696
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                Ok.

                In the end i left things as they are.
                without the hebrew symbolism connected to the hexagram or pentagram.
                And went with the standard.
                But such a standard does not necessarily exist in regards the circle right?

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                • D daredevil92103

                  I am currently trying to procure the things needed to make my probationer's robe. i'm not very good at sewing (the gods only know what this thing will turn out looking like 😆 )
                  anyone know a good general pattern to go but when actually making the thing?
                  the symbols i am not worried about, just the robe.
                  i am aware of the deliberate blind in all the pics one can find of the robe, and can procure the correct symbols.

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                  Jim Eshelman
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                  You mean your personal magick circle? You can do that however you see fit. (Or not at all. I almost never use a formal circle, other than for very specific types of operations such as evocation.

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                  • D daredevil92103

                    I am currently trying to procure the things needed to make my probationer's robe. i'm not very good at sewing (the gods only know what this thing will turn out looking like 😆 )
                    anyone know a good general pattern to go but when actually making the thing?
                    the symbols i am not worried about, just the robe.
                    i am aware of the deliberate blind in all the pics one can find of the robe, and can procure the correct symbols.

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                    Thelemic oz
                    wrote on last edited by augur
                    #47

                    Check out
                    https://azothart.com/product/aa-style-probationer-robe/

                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                    • D daredevil92103

                      I am currently trying to procure the things needed to make my probationer's robe. i'm not very good at sewing (the gods only know what this thing will turn out looking like 😆 )
                      anyone know a good general pattern to go but when actually making the thing?
                      the symbols i am not worried about, just the robe.
                      i am aware of the deliberate blind in all the pics one can find of the robe, and can procure the correct symbols.

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                      augur
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                      I have found it useful to know what I am good at, develop areas where the skills are useful for my life, and employ professionals where neither of those things are true.

                      Jim's instructions on how to make simple Tau Robe are solid, I have used the methodology. I now pay professionals when there is a need for a Robe.

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