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Lesser Ritual of the Hexagram question!

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    SetiDraconis
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    I have a question here.

    When doing the LHR do you have to do both invoking Hexagrams as well as Banishing Hexagrams?

    Or can I only do one say Invoking?

    If I have to do banishing I do every thing in reverse order as well east,south,west,north?

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    @SetiDraconis said

    "When doing the LHR do you have to do both invoking Hexagrams as well as Banishing Hexagrams?"

    No. One or the other, depending on whether you are doing the Banishing Lesser Ritual of the Hexagram or the Invoking Lesser Ritual of the Hexagram. - Just the same as the Pentagram ritual.

    "Or can I only do one say Invoking?"

    I may have answered the wrong question above. Are you asking if you can do only the LIRH and skip the LBRH? To that, let me first say that the conventional answer is: No, always banish first. - But I'll add that there are exceptions, and the exceptions (1) aren't for beginners and (2) mostly deal with scenarios where a space was previously consecrated and has been reserved exclusively with spiritual work thereafter.

    "If I have to do banishing I do every thing in reverse order as well east,south,west,north?"

    No.

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    Hi Jim,

    Thank you very much for that information I was going threw all my different books on Thelema and the web and just couldn't find that question on hand.

    You are all ways a help with my questions here.

    Thank you.

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    SetiDraconis
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    I have one more thing.

    I read a ritual that utilizing only the earth hexagram in all 4 quarters.

    What would the use of this be,to use only the Earth Hexagram or any other for that matter?

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    Jim Eshelman
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    @SetiDraconis said

    "I read a ritual that utilizing only the earth hexagram in all 4 quarters.

    What would the use of this be,to use only the Earth Hexagram or any other for that matter?"

    For one thing, in the Greater Ritual of the Hexagram, only the Earth form is used. (It is then customized according to a particular planet.)

    There are exceptions to this, but that's the general rule.

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    luxinhominefactum
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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law

    Lemme ask you something; which version of the hexagrams are you using? Not, I hope, the old aeon one with the osirian formula?

    Love is the law, love under will

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    @luxinhominefactum said

    "Lemme ask you something; which version of the hexagrams are you using? Not, I hope, the old aeon one with the osirian formula?"

    Same versions of the Hexagram (except the Unicursal for the Sun, for which it was intended) - The distinctly Osirian elements are in the Analysis of the Keyword, not in the hexagrams.

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    luxinhomiefactum I used the earth hexagram in Liber O in all Quarters,this was in preparation for a ritual written by Michael Staley and was a Typhonian OTO ritual for the most part I would say and was the "LAM-SERPENT SADHANA"

    But tell me with osirian elements?

    What type of elements are these?

    Also I know a little but what is the over all purpose of of the LHR?

    What effect does it have on ones aura?

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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law

    whew

    i hear "lesser ritual of the hexagram" and i get all Funny. it's amazing how many people that call themselves thelemites still do it the old way.

    like jim said, there's a specific osirian formula in what's typically known as "the analysis of the keyword" potion of the old-school version of that ritual; it's a really condensed dramatization of the osiris myth in it's later form (not as osiris the libyan corn god, for instance.) it's quite astonishingly beautiful in its simplicity and effectiveness, but is no longer appropriate in the present aeon.

    from one point of view, that ritual (the "lesser" one) invokes or banishes the elements into (or out of) your "aura." (that's not a term I typically use - i find "khu" to be more in harmony with my experience.) i'm sure there are other ideas on that.

    one effect of this can be a balancing and harmonization between the individual magician and the elements in their macrocosmic aspect. this is especially true if it's combined with a "greater" hexagram ritual, using all of the planetary hexagrams.

    interestingly (but not surprisingly), jim and i seem to approach the unicursal differently in terms of this specific ritual. in a "greater" hexagram ritual i use the old-school hexagram of the sun, which is all the other hexagrams drawn over each other, and then close with the unicursal as the "eighth" (my circle is based on one in eight) to seal the deal, as it were.

    i can see the argument for using the unicursal as the solar hexagram; there are certainly other rituals where i use it as such. just not them ones 😀

    Love is the law, love under will

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