Mayan Crystal Skulls
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
I am trying to find info on these cryatal skulls; where they've been found, how many there are, how many have been found, et cetera...? If anyone could help, it would be much appreciated. Please, thank you.
Love is the law, love under will. -
well to be part of the "real" crystal skulls i thought it had to be carved against the axis of the crystal. and i know the "first" one was supposedly found in Mexico near the site of Aztec ruins. 6 or 7 found so far though?
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I dont know but what does this have to do with Thelema at all?
IAO131
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@FiliusBeastia said
"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
I am trying to find info on these cryatal skulls; where they've been found, how many there are, how many have been found, et cetera...? If anyone could help, it would be much appreciated. Please, thank you.
Love is the law, love under will."**I got to touch and place my hands on Max the crystal skull in 1990. It was an amazing experience. Stephen Halpern was also there, along with Nick Nocerino, helping to give a lecture on his tests with the skulls, playing music and shining lasers into them.
I think it relates to Thelema in the sense of a higher intelligence obviously behind the creation of these skulls. In theory there are suppose to be 13, but I think that is symbollic instead of literal. Aleister Crowley did visit Mexico and his favorite drug was liquid peyote, although he never discovered a Mayan temple or a crystal skull. Doesn't mean he didn't catch the vibe though. In my years of study and research, I find this an excellent branch of study in ritual magick.
I myself had an amazing experience placing my hands on Max, the Texas crystal skull.
If you google Nick Nocerino I believe you will find a lot of info, since studying the Crystal Skulls was his life work.
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@Frater Sabaechi said
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I think it relates to Thelema in the sense of a higher intelligence obviously behind the creation of these skulls."How is this related to Thelema again?
Ever seen this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skulls#Research_into_crystal_skull_origins
"In theory there are suppose to be 13, but I think that is symbollic instead of literal. Aleister Crowley did visit Mexico and his favorite drug was liquid peyote, although he never discovered a Mayan temple or a crystal skull. Doesn't mean he didn't catch the vibe though. In my years of study and research, I find this an excellent branch of study in ritual magick."
His favorite drug was liquid peyote? Where'd you get that?
IAO131
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@Aum418 said
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@Frater Sabaechi said
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I think it relates to Thelema in the sense of a higher intelligence obviously behind the creation of these skulls."How is this related to Thelema again?
Ever seen this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skulls#Research_into_crystal_skull_origins
"In theory there are suppose to be 13, but I think that is symbollic instead of literal. Aleister Crowley did visit Mexico and his favorite drug was liquid peyote, although he never discovered a Mayan temple or a crystal skull. Doesn't mean he didn't catch the vibe though. In my years of study and research, I find this an excellent branch of study in ritual magick."
His favorite drug was liquid peyote? Where'd you get that?
IAO131"
Well there are various theories about the Crystal Skulls and yes, I've heard about the antiquities dealer Eugène Boban. But there is really something different about reading that and actually holding a crystal skull in one's hands, for me, at least.
As for the liquid peyote, Anhalonium Lewinii, I heard this from Richard Kaczynski book Perdurabo: The Life of Aleister Crowley.
Lophophora williamsii aka Anhalonium Lewinii, liquid peyote, mescaline.
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@FiliusBeastia said
"I am trying to find info on these [Mayan?] crystal skulls..."
The link posted by Aum418 is probably what you should read first. Other evidence on archaeological website (as well as the cited *wiki *site) indicate that close examination shows that ALL of the known crystal skulls were manufactured recently (in the past couple or three centuries - as opposed to "ancient" manufacture).
It would seem that any perceived "radiance" or "inherence" of "special energy" might be self-induced.
As far as these skulls being linked to Thelema, historically or contemporarily-practical, there seems to be no relation whatsoever.
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@Frater Sabaechi said
"As for the liquid peyote, Anhalonium Lewinii, I heard this from Richard Kaczynski book Perdurabo: The Life of Aleister Crowley. ... Lophophora williamsii aka Anhalonium Lewinii, liquid peyote, mescaline."
Peyote is a cactus that (like opium) contains about 20 alkaloids. The active alkaloid in Peyote is 3,4,5-trimethoxy-phenyl-ethyl-amine, known to the mundane world as mescaline.
Of the other peyote alkaloids, some are irritating to the stomach and cause vomiting. So: Eat or chew a bunch (20 is the traditional Yaqui dosage) of Peyote "buttons" (slices), and one will probably vomit a lot just before the visions start. (Once one has expelled the irritating alkaloids, the nausea ceases and it's clear sailing).
Peyote buttons can be smashed up and mixed with alcohol. That would make a "Peyote liquid extract" that has the same vomiting effect.
The mescaline can be extracted from the mashed up buttons through a rigorous chemical extraction process. The result is mescaline - a white crystalline power. This powder can be dissolved in alcohol or other solvents, thus producing a "liquid peyote" (a false nomenclature) that produces visions without vomiting.
Mescaline can also be synthetically produced (that is, made up from "scratch" in the laboratory) and it has the same effect as the "liquid extract."
According to Crowley, he had his mescaline "made up" by pharmacists, is generally credited with "introducing mescaline to Europe," and (supposedly) furnished the libation to Aldous Huxley, who then wrote the classic "The Doors of Perception," which led to a rock-group calling itself "The Doors" in honor of this well-known text.
Almost all "street mescaline" (so-called) is not mescaline, but maybe some LSD-25 or other "hallucinogen." This is because the extract is difficult to make-up, the lab version synthesis procedure is extremely complex, and the "real" result would be prohibitively expensive. Besides that, the "authorities" of the ever-present Establishment have decided that we are discussing illegal substances here. The North American Native Church appears to be the only organization that holds some form of exemption from the law. They meet regularly in Arizona for Peyote ceremonials and they utilize the raw cactus "buttons" only. (There's always a lot of vomiting and certain individuals are assigned to "vomitus duty" wherein they sweep up the vomitus and take it "outside the circle" where it is ceremonially burned or buried).
One can also journey across the Arizona border into Mexico and join the Huichol/Yaqui Indians in Mexico as they trek out on their traditional Peyote hunt and subsequent rituals. They do not seem to mind it if "foreigner" gringos accompany them.
In any case, liquid peyote" is probably just some mescaline mixed with some solvent that one can drink.
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@Frater Sabaechi said
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@Aum418 said
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@Frater Sabaechi said
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I think it relates to Thelema in the sense of a higher intelligence obviously behind the creation of these skulls."How is this related to Thelema again?
Ever seen this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skulls#Research_into_crystal_skull_origins
"In theory there are suppose to be 13, but I think that is symbollic instead of literal. Aleister Crowley did visit Mexico and his favorite drug was liquid peyote, although he never discovered a Mayan temple or a crystal skull. Doesn't mean he didn't catch the vibe though. In my years of study and research, I find this an excellent branch of study in ritual magick."
His favorite drug was liquid peyote? Where'd you get that?
IAO131"
Well there are various theories about the Crystal Skulls and yes, I've heard about the antiquities dealer Eugène Boban. But there is really something different about reading that and actually holding a crystal skull in one's hands, for me, at least.
As for the liquid peyote, Anhalonium Lewinii, I heard this from Richard Kaczynski book Perdurabo: The Life of Aleister Crowley.
Lophophora williamsii aka Anhalonium Lewinii, liquid peyote, mescaline."
93,
I know Crowley was into mescaline I was wondering why it would be said it was his 'favorite' drug? One tends to hear more about heroine, hashish, and ether rather than mescaline.
IAO131
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Mescaline promotes a visionary state of consciousness - much more so than hashish or heroin(though mescaline & hashish both elevate one to the same plane[Hod/Netzach]). The only visionary experience capable of being induced by heroin is the body's withdrawal therefrom - & the visions are, in almost all cases, nightmarish(see William S. Burroughs' book Junky for an example of the visions induced by heroin withdrawal). Mescaline OTOH promotes intense visions & revelations of a high & ecstatic calibre...I would only think it natural that 666 might prefer the mescaline trance to that of heroin - plus, mescaline is not addictive...on the contrary - after a really good mescaline trip you most likely will not want to do it again for a long, long time.
BTW, I don't see how 666's favoring mescaline has anything to do with crystal skulls...he most likely would have scoffed at the idea of a physical object being inherantly magical beyond man's endowing it with such value...I know I do
"Man is the measure of all things." - Protagoras
Crystal skulls fall in the same category as ritual tools. Ritual tools are instruments & as such they have instrumental value concerning magick, i.e., they are useful as a means to magick but are not intrinsically 'magical', IMHO.
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