Liber Legis II:16
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"I am The Empress & the Hierophant. Thus eleven, as my bride is eleven." - Liber Legis II:16
Is it just me or does Aiwass suck at math? I mean, The Empress is numbered 3 & the Heirophant 5, or 4 & 6 if we go by their letter correspondances...either way, it doesn't equal 11. What gives?
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93 REoD,
"Quote REoD: I am The Empress & the Hierophant. Thus eleven, as my bride is eleven." - Liber Legis II:16
Is it just me or does Aiwass suck at math? I mean, The Empress is numbered 3 & the Hierophant 5, or 4 & 6 if we go by their letter correspondances...either way, it doesn't equal 11. What gives?"
I don't know the answer to your question but, what I do know is that by adding 11 to the number of the ATU you get it's path (That is, from the 32 paths of wisdom) on the Tree of Life.Here are the examples from Liber Legis II:16.
The Empress ATU 3+11=The 14th Path. The Luminous Intelligence.
The Hierophant Atu 5+11=The 16th Path.The Triumphant and Eternal Intelligence.
Hope this helps
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The correct spelling is
V A D
(Vav Aleph Daleth)By letter values, 6 + 1 + 4 = 11.
By Tarot values, V + 0 + III = 8.
The resulting implicit name, Vadit, is Latin for “He goes." -
Thank you Jim!
The word VAD reminds me of the word AVD. The Qabalistic term which denotes the particular aspect of the no-thing utilized in magick. From PFC (Esoteric Secrets of Meditation and Magic) www.amazon.com/gp/product/0981897738
It also brings to mind one of my *favorite * treads on this board.
Varieties of Light:
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@Red Eagle of Death said
"Is it just me or does Aiwass suck at math? I mean, The Empress is numbered 3 & the Heirophant 5, or 4 & 6 if we go by their letter correspondances...either way, it doesn't equal 11. What gives?"
There are some other interesting ideas out there, too.
In Crowley's Old Comment, he succinctly invoked a chain of gematria that takes you from 8 (which is 3 plus 5) to the Hebrew letter Cheth (8 by gematria) to 418 (ChITh spelled "in full") to ABRAHADABRA (also valued at 418) to 11 (the number of letters in ABRAHADABRA). He also alluded to the Golden Dawn's Strength/Justice swap in the Tarot, which involved cards 8 and 11.
Soror Meral (in ITC somewhere, I think) said that one can get 11 by adding the values of V and H. Vav for the Hierophant, and Heh for the Empress. (Heh being the feminine letters of the Tetragrammaton, symbolizing the Shekinah, etc.)
AISh MLChMH (on LiveJournal) noted that 11 is 3+5+3. One can consider using the 3 twice because a hexagram is made of two triangles. Can the "conjoined" Hierophant and Empress be symbolized with a hexagram? Maybe.
Jim: Do you know if Crowley ever mentioned the VAD solution? Maybe in the Qabalistic appendices to the New Comment (which are missing from many editions of the commentaries)?
Steve
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@Steven Cranmer said
"Jim: Do you know if Crowley ever mentioned the VAD solution? Maybe in the Qabalistic appendices to the New Comment (which are missing from many editions of the commentaries)?"
As given above totalling 8 and 11? No, I believe not. AFAIK that's original with me.
But he acknowledged VAD as Hadit's name elsewhere.
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@Red Eagle of Death said
""I am The Empress & the Hierophant. Thus eleven, as my bride is eleven." - Liber Legis II:16
Is it just me or does Aiwass suck at math? I mean, The Empress is numbered 3 & the Heirophant 5, or 4 & 6 if we go by their letter correspondances...either way, it doesn't equal 11. What gives?"
ROFL.
How is VAD the spelling of Hadit? That would make it not Hadit but "Oo-dit" or "Oo-ah-dit" or "Oh-dit" or "Oh-ah-dit". Or even "Vadit" but I see no reason to look at this way... what is your justification for spelling Hadit this way?
IAO131
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The justification is that, in a passage clearly addressing the spelling of his name (which, under "the old rules," would have been with letters corresponding to The Emperor and The Empress), He specifically disavows this and substitutes Tarot cards corresponding to Vav and Daleth.
As for pronunciation... Had is The Wad!
Call it an "hidden name" if you like, or some other concoction. Crowley took is seriously enough that he mentioned the hidden form of "Abrahadabra" as "Abravadabra" = 419, an equivalent to Teth.
And the vadit (pronounced "wahd-eet") goes mean, in Latin, "He goes." That's kind of a big deal for a god who says of Himself, "it is I that go."
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@Jim Eshelman said
The correct spelling is
V A D
(Vav Aleph Daleth)"In the note to Liber Reguli we are given "XI, the number of Magick AVD", & again in MWT, "AVD, the creative Magick" ...any relation to the verse?