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Understanding The Book of the Law

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  • D dallas64

    I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

    1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

    When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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    Avshalom Binyamin
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    Love it.

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    • D dallas64

      I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

      1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

      When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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      dallas64
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      I need to be directed to some sort of a beginers guide. A lot of the material presented here is to indepth for me at this time. I'm grappling with some of the violent passages in chapter three, and I can clearly see from some of your posts that this isn't uncommon and a discussion of this must be available.

      One other question: As anyone linked tBotL to Objectivism?

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      • D dallas64

        I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

        1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

        When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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        Edward Mason
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        Dallas64, 93,

        Crowley's own commentaries are published. One more recent student has posted his own meditations on the subject at:

        aumha.org/arcane/ccxx.htm

        93 93/93,

        Edward

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        • D dallas64

          I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

          1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

          When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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          gmugmble
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          @dallas64 said

          "One other question: As anyone linked tBotL to Objectivism?"

          Crowley mentioned somewhere that he'd read The Fountainhead and liked it.

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          • D dallas64

            I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

            1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

            When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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            Mephisto
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            @AvshalomBinyamin said

            "And the words intersected are: shape, to, Beast, try, I, say, of, a. Which unscrambled, reveal:

            I try to say a shape of Beast."

            It is obviously a secret magical formula:

            Say, to Beast of a Shape: "I try!"

            Much more Thelemic if you ask me. 😀

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            • D dallas64

              I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

              1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

              When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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              Anonymous
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              I, Beast, try to say a shape!

              I, Beast, say to shape a try!

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              • D dallas64

                I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

                1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

                When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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                Jim Eshelman
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                The key of the letters passed through is that they enumerate to 418.
                All three symbols referenced in that passage are specific references to 418.

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                • D dallas64

                  I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

                  1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

                  When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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                  Al Ha-Shemat
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                  N.O.X.; read: X in a circle, id est the Circle Squared.

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                  • D dallas64

                    I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

                    1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

                    When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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                    Al Ha-Shemat
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                    😆 X marks the spot is a pretty good way of writing my post off as irrelevant. Which is what I was asking for, in all honesty, diving in with a "cryptic 'is' statement" and trying to sound clever 😆 😉

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                    • D dallas64

                      I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

                      1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

                      When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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                      Jim Eshelman
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                      [ADMINISTRATOR'S NOTE]

                      Please bring this fully back on topic as a serious topic, attempting to meaningfully respond to the original post; or stop posting.

                      Spitballs and masturbation generally are not allowed in this classroom while class is in session.

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                      • D dallas64

                        I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

                        1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

                        When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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                        Al Ha-Shemat
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                        Fair enough. All apologies.

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                        • D dallas64

                          I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

                          1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

                          When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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                          Al Ha-Shemat
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                          " Evidently the grid was not present in 1912 when the Book of the Law was first published commercially, so it must have been added by Aleister Crowley years after the book was received."

                          In the interests of getting back on topic (after having derailed it), if the 1912 copy of the BOTL didn't have the graph, does anyone know if there is anywhere, online or otherwise, where I might find the 1912 printout? At the very least it'd be interesting to know precisely what elements weren't present before 1912.

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                          • D dallas64

                            I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

                            1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

                            When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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                            Jim Eshelman
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                            It's in The Equinox.

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                            • D dallas64

                              I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

                              1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

                              When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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                              Al Ha-Shemat
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                              Does it include a printout of the handwritten copy?

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                                I just finished reading the Book of the Law, and I'm not in the process of understanding it more completely. I've got a lot of questions, but my first concerns passage 47.

                                1. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

                                When you look at the hand written section you can see the line, and the imperfect squared circle. That page also has a grid with numbers on the side, and letters at the top. Are there any theories about this entry? It seem like something that would be noticed and discussed already, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched.

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                                Jim Eshelman
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                                @Al Ha-Shema said

                                "Does it include a printout of the handwritten copy?"

                                The print-out of the original was first published in Equinox No. 7, which would be Vernal Equinox 1912. It was very tiny size.

                                The first fully public publication of the typeset text of CCXX was in Eqjuinox No. 10, Fall Equinox 1913.

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