Saliva experience: four questions.
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As to whether you are tapping into universal consciousness during a session like this, it really depends on where we are at developmentally. Until we smooth out our personality traits, and learn to operate from a deeper kernal of self, much of what we experience in these visions is seriously filtered by ego, projected ideas, lower emotions, etc.
Part of you is experiencing a sensation, and part of you is working quickly to assign a meaning to the sensation, which then colors the rest of the experience. The experience then, is as good as the part of you that interprets.
Hence the counsel to assign less meaning to the content of the experience than you think it merits. 6 months from now you can re-read, and evaluate stuff with a new perspective.
Mainly, your experience teaches you what happens when you smoke Salvia.
For example, Salvia often causes disassociation and the impression of inhabiting a different body or form. You experienced on some level being a bald African man. I've experienced being a tree, or plankton riding ocean swells. Does this mean we 'remembered' being a literal tree or person in a past life? One can't really be certain, unless you can find some corroborating data. But it doesn't really matter.
Salvia also often causes giggling (check). It can cause visual hallucinations or distortions (check). It can cause synesthesia (I remember seeing sound waves when I smoked it once).
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There's been a lot of talk of Salvia in this forum. I suppose its legality has something to do with its popularity; many youngsters are starting to use it as an introduction to psychedelica.
I've experimented with Salvia perhaps twenty times, in various preparations. I've come to the conclusion that it is vastly inferior to other psychedelics. Not only is there difficulty in acquiring the right preparation, but the nature of the preparation itself is often questionable. Psychedelic substances are very sensitive to energy transmission, and should be prepared with the utmost care. Unfortunately, in our culture, quality is often sacrificed for profit, and most psychedelics are of dubious quality--which is why I stopped my experimentations. But I feel as though I've compiled sufficient data to offer my opinion.
Salvia is a good grounding point for those who wish to experiment in this field. The important thing is this: to assign the proper value to every experience. During any hallucinatory state, a variety of things present themselves to the mind. You are right in attempting to order and analyze them, but in doing so you've stumbled accross the fundamental question:
"What does it all mean?"
This implies inconstancy of Will, as per the verse: "When power asks why, then is power weakness."
Until one discovers one's True Will, every state of mind is in the nature of duality. Salvia is too apt to magnify this duality, and illuminates every neurosis. Yet herein is its value: it reveals conflicts of the Will. Confronted with an influx of something Universal, your rational mind is attempting to conceive of the event in rational terms.
As I often quote:
"By doing certain things certain results follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophic validity to any of them. "
It's a rather complex issue, but simply put, a neurosis is developed when one assumes that one's "reality" is more true than any other reality. It is a problem of valuation. An example: after going through the "Da'ath" part of your experience, you responded to the other beings in the parking lot with fear and paranoia. Your "ego," or lower self, made temporarily sensitive by your psychedelic state, perceived these anomalies as a threat. Yet your higher self sought integration, and it is this that led you to analyze your experience, no?
Notice that your thoughts were racing, and you had difficulty with decisions. As I said, psychedelics only magnify illusion to infinite proportions. Until one has managed to balance and mantain the psyche, the state of mind that Salvia induces can only lead to confusion. This is why I consider it one of the lesser psychedelics. It's great for kicks, sure, but its a very foggy lens as far as self-improvment is concerned.
A tip: it's best to perform the LBRP before taking salvia.
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@JPF said
"There's been a lot of talk of Salvia in this forum. I suppose its legality has something to do with its popularity; many youngsters are starting to use it as an introduction to psychedelica.
I've experimented with Salvia perhaps twenty times, in various preparations. I've come to the conclusion that it is vastly inferior to other psychedelics. Not only is there difficulty in acquiring the right preparation, but the nature of the preparation itself is often questionable. Psychedelic substances are very sensitive to energy transmission, and should be prepared with the utmost care. Unfortunately, in our culture, quality is often sacrificed for profit, and most psychedelics are of dubious quality--which is why I stopped my experimentations. But I feel as though I've compiled sufficient data to offer my opinion.
Salvia is a good grounding point for those who wish to experiment in this field. The important thing is this: to assign the proper value to every experience. During any hallucinatory state, a variety of things present themselves to the mind. You are right in attempting to order and analyze them, but in doing so you've stumbled accross the fundamental question:
"What does it all mean?"
This implies inconstancy of Will, as per the verse: "When power asks why, then is power weakness."
Until one discovers one's True Will, every state of mind is in the nature of duality. Salvia is too apt to magnify this duality, and illuminates every neurosis. Yet herein is its value: it reveals conflicts of the Will. Confronted with an influx of something Universal, your rational mind is attempting to conceive of the event in rational terms.
As I often quote:
"By doing certain things certain results follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophic validity to any of them. "
It's a rather complex issue, but simply put, a neurosis is developed when one assumes that one's "reality" is more true than any other reality. It is a problem of valuation. An example: after going through the "Da'ath" part of your experience, you responded to the other beings in the parking lot with fear and paranoia. Your "ego," or lower self, made temporarily sensitive by your psychedelic state, perceived these anomalies as a threat. Yet your higher self sought integration, and it is this that led you to analyze your experience, no?
Notice that your thoughts were racing, and you had difficulty with decisions. As I said, psychedelics only magnify illusion to infinite proportions. Until one has managed to balance and mantain the psyche, the state of mind that Salvia induces can only lead to confusion. This is why I consider it one of the lesser psychedelics. It's great for kicks, sure, but its a very foggy lens as far as self-improvment is concerned.
A tip: it's best to perform the LBRP before taking salvia.
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I don't agree that S.D. is just for kids, or some how not an important entheogenic. I believe there is a native Indian tradition with this plant that goes way back. Also, it's one of the most, if not the most, powerful hallucinogenic drug. I will agree that there is a lot of crap with extracts and different preparations, which is why I believe in the more natural the better. Most of the problems we have with "drugs" is due to refinement and synthesis.
In my previous post, I reported that I was transported to a new world, dimension etc, and my mind was crystal clear and I had perfect memory. I am convinced that I could have made contact if I pushed farther and harder, but as I said, I am not prepared for that as it is too painful, among other reasons.
that was my experience.... I know also that there are individual chemistry differences to be accounted for as well.