Skip to content

College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

College of Thelema and Temple of Thelema

  • A∴A∴
  • College of Thelema
  • Temple of Thelema
  • Publications
  • Forum
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Collapse

The student surpassing the master

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Thelema
3 Posts 2 Posters 69 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Mike
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    About the A.'.A.'. system of attainment specifically:

    I've read that one does not advance to the next degree until their student/immediate inferior also advances a degree.

    I'm aware that things get complex when one's superior dies, or is expelled from the Order, etc, but what happens if one's superior simply doesn't advance in degrees?

    For instance, if I need to work out 3=8 issues in this lifetime and it will take me the entire lifetime to adequately work them out, is the Zelator beneath me forever confined to 2=9, or can he/she surpass me if they satisfactorily prove (by deed) that they are indeed destined to go "further" along the path of attainment in this life than I?

    I know things aren't as strict in the pre-Adept degrees; whatever answer I end up getting, does it also apply to Adept and post-Adept degrees?

    J M 2 Replies Last reply
    0
  • J Offline
    J Offline
    Jim Eshelman
    replied to Mike on last edited by
    #2

    @Ash said

    "About the A.'.A.'. system of attainment specifically:

    I've read that one does not advance to the next degree until their student/immediate inferior also advances a degree."

    Yes, though that rule is suspended below 5=6.

    "I'm aware that things get complex when one's superior dies, or is expelled from the Order, etc, but what happens if one's superior simply doesn't advance in degrees?"

    The Superior is responsible for your progress to his or her Superior. In the situation you describe, you'd be "handed uphill."

    "For instance, if I need to work out 3=8 issues in this lifetime and it will take me the entire lifetime to adequately work them out, is the Zelator beneath me forever confined to 2=9, or can he/she surpass me if they satisfactorily prove (by deed) that they are indeed destined to go "further" along the path of attainment in this life than I?"

    If you as a 1=10 qualify for 2=9 and your Superior isn't 3=8, then you would be transfered to the care of his or her Practicus.

    "I know things aren't as strict in the pre-Adept degrees; whatever answer I end up getting, does it also apply to Adept and post-Adept degrees?"

    There isn't a beaurocracy manual (thank Had!). But, broadly, the same principles would apply (and a few more that I needn't go into), and right decisions should be based on the sound principles. (I think the best answer to your last question is, "Ask again when you're 5=6.")

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Mike
    replied to Mike on last edited by
    #3

    Thank you Jim. I presume that the question would be largely irrelevant to an Adept, now that I ponder your answer.

    Just to clarify: I wasn't asking (hypothetically) if I could surpass masters of mine, I was asking if any lack of progress on my part would (hypothetically) hold my inferiors back 😆

    1 Reply Last reply
    0

  • Login

  • Login or register to search.
  • First post
    Last post
0
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups