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    __THE_HERMIT__
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    Is there a specific level of initiation that bears direct relation to Common Sense? or is this entirely independent of an aspirants spiritual attainment?

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    TheSilent1
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    If by common sense you mean: discretion, then I think that alone precedes initiation.

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    Avshalom Binyamin
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    One would hope so...

    But I've been amazing at how far one can progress on one front, while remaining stunted on the other... 😆

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    Mike
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    @AvshalomBinyamin said

    "But I've been amazing at how far one can progress on one front, while remaining stunted on the other... 😆"

    This, sir, is the story of my life. If I didn't have any aspiration, I would just take what you said as my motto and leave it at that 😆

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    Labyrinthus
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    @_aLL_seEIng_eYe_ said

    "Is there a specific level of initiation that bears direct relation to Common Sense? or is this entirely independent of an aspirants spiritual attainment?"

    If by 'common sense' you mean 'Intuition', I think it would improve and increase with each initiation and/or attainment.

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    __THE_HERMIT__
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    By Common Sense I meant sound practical judgement, I guess it is harder to get more specific than that, to me this is not exclusively but still directly related to a realistic evaluation of one's personal experience, an understanding of human psychology and human limitations, requires detachment to a certain degree and is antithetical to denial

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    sound practical judgment that is independent of specialized knowledge, training, or the like; normal native intelligence.

    This is strikingly harmonious with my own understanding excepting that I was considering whether "initiatory Knowledge" was an exception to the rule.

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    I've often wondered whether the term "common sense" was coined as derisive aristocratic mockery.

    As such, it's all too "common".

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    Labyrinthus
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    @_aLL_seEIng_eYe_ said

    "sound practical judgment that is independent of specialized knowledge, training, or the like; normal native intelligence.

    This is strikingly harmonious with my own understanding excepting that I was considering whether "initiatory Knowledge" was an exception to the rule."

    I think "initiatory Knowledge" would not be just an exception but wholly separate from "judgment that is independent of specialized knowledge". I would think that "Initiatory Knowledge" is specialized knowledge.

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    Danica
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    @_aLL_seEIng_eYe_ said

    "By Common Sense I meant sound practical judgement, I guess it is harder to get more specific than that, to me this is not exclusively but still directly related to a realistic evaluation of one's personal experience, an understanding of human psychology and human limitations, requires detachment to a certain degree and is antithetical to denial

    Dictionary.com defines it as

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    sound practical judgment that is independent of specialized knowledge, training, or the like; normal native intelligence.

    This is strikingly harmonious with my own understanding excepting that I was considering whether "initiatory Knowledge" was an exception to the rule."

    if we understand it as discernment, I would specifically atribute it to Malkuth and the Neophyte grade ( see for example column L in Liber 777).

    by the way, aLL_seEIng_eYe, H.G.Gadamer dedicated a whole big section of his book "Truth and Method" to the concept of common sense and its development in the western world, an all the philosophical implications of that particular development.

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    __THE_HERMIT__
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    @danica said

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    @_aLL_seEIng_eYe_ said
    "By Common Sense I meant sound practical judgement, I guess it is harder to get more specific than that, to me this is not exclusively but still directly related to a realistic evaluation of one's personal experience, an understanding of human psychology and human limitations, requires detachment to a certain degree and is antithetical to denial

    Dictionary.com defines it as

    –noun
    sound practical judgment that is independent of specialized knowledge, training, or the like; normal native intelligence.

    This is strikingly harmonious with my own understanding excepting that I was considering whether "initiatory Knowledge" was an exception to the rule."

    if we understand it as discernment, I would specifically atribute it to Malkuth and the Neophyte grade ( see for example column L in Liber 777).

    by the way, aLL_seEIng_eYe, H.G.Gadamer dedicated a whole big section of his book "Truth and Method" to the concept of common sense and its development in the western world, an all the philosophical implications of that particular development."

    Thank you Danica, i will look into it at my earliest convenience.

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    Mephisto
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    The path of Tav; the intersection of the verticle and the horizontal; the meeting of Yesod with Malkuth (change and permanence)--these things comprise what we might call "common sense:" the circle squared. 😉

    An equally good case might be made for Binah, however.

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