Consciousness of non-humans
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Does Thelemic philosophy, or even Qabalistic philosophy for that matter, touch on how the consciousness of non-human lifeforms fit into concepts such as the Will and becoming through the emanations of the Tree of Life at all? I have not seen this touched on anywhere.
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@HWNH said
"Does Thelemic philosophy, or even Qabalistic philosophy for that matter, touch on how the consciousness of non-human lifeforms fit into concepts such as the Will and becoming through the emanations of the Tree of Life at all? I have not seen this touched on anywhere."
Which non-human life-forms?
That question helps address the modes of consciousness active in the being. However, more broadly, Thelemic philosophy depicts all elelments of the universe whatsoever as part of an integrated whole, a universe-scale dance in which each extant thing (things we normally call "living," as well as things we normally call "non-living") has its innate path.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"That question helps address the modes of consciousness active in the being. However, more broadly, Thelemic philosophy depicts all elelments of the universe whatsoever as part of an integrated whole, a universe-scale dance in which each extant thing (things we normally call "living," as well as things we normally call "non-living") has its innate path."
So would this imply then that every physical manifestation has a Will of some sort? Albeit, a will incomprehensible to humans? Should we then also take great cares to not bend the will of say a spider, or a budding flower? Does the Will transcend humanity and find its teaching applicable to other species of life? The Dali Lama recently spoke on the consciousness of animals. I am eager to see the interview. It made me wonder where this scheme fits in with Thelema.
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I feed my dogs very well,
yet they want to eat my chickens
No matter how much food is in their bellies
they will chase,
they will bite
they will eat them.
if given the chanceI don't know why they cant be satisfied with dog chow.
I know that they cant though,
No matter what.Should I,
Could I
bewitch them,
and enchant them
and force them to not want to eat my chickens?After hundred of years of domestication
and attempts to change them
they still have their will
their primal drive and desires....In my body, I have million billion cells
and each one does what it does
based upon some code
some rule
something
that I can barely comprehend.
If I tried with all my might
and all my will
can I make that cell in my lung
change into a cell in my heart?maybe,
but why would I want to?If I keep chickens and dogs
then it is I who must change
my behaviors,
my thoughts and actions
not my dogs and chickens...You may be interested in reading the new book by Michael Hayes called The Hermetic Code in DNA. the Sacred Principles in Ordering the Universe
It speaks of the ideas you are inquiring about, in detail.
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@Veronica said
"I feed my dogs very well,
yet they want to eat my chickens
No matter how much food is in their bellies
they will chase,
they will bite
they will eat them.
if given the chance"
The book you suggest sounds very intriguing. I will be sure to look it up and most likely give it a good read. My field is biomedical research and it is my nature to synthesize mystical teachings with contemporary knowledge of biosciences. Not surprising, they fit together as if they are two sides of the same coin. Each a different perspective, but incomplete without the other.
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"My field is biomedical research and it is my nature to synthesize mystical teachings with contemporary knowledge of biosciences..."
Hey!
I think thats what I do!
lol,
seriously though, I do what I do as a hobby;)
I had no idea I could get paid.....ok, enough silliness
I think you may enjoy that book. -
@Veronica said
""My field is biomedical research and it is my nature to synthesize mystical teachings with contemporary knowledge of biosciences..."
Hey!
I think thats what I do!
lol,
seriously though, I do what I do as a hobby;)
I had no idea I could get paid.....
."Don't feel too out of the loop.. my paycheck is in the form of student loans
