What is....
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A male equilateral triangle, with three " separate" circles within, that fill the body of the triangle.
The circles are not interlocking, but are touching ( tangent?).
I loaned out my symbol book, and have had no luck with google or my geometry books...
I have been reading a book called "the Book of Numbers" by Peter Bentley, and had an interesting dream that had this symbol.
It is Apallonian ish.....and at one point, within each circle three other circles would appear, in different colors, or at times the three circles would be like rings with in rings.
I know I have seen this symbol before, and I am interested in the formula and design.
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@Angel of Death said
"A male equilateral triangle, with three " separate" circles within, that fill the body of the triangle.
The circles are not interlocking, but are touching ( tangent?)."
Sounds to me like a representation of the Supernals.
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A small , mathematical commentary...
@Angel of Death said
"The circles are not interlocking, but are touching ( tangent?)."
Each of the circles would posses a tangential relationship with the other two circles in addition to two sides of the triangle.
By connecting the centers of the three inscribed circles, a second equilateral triangle is formed with a perimeter equal to 1/3 of the equilateral triangle it is contained within.
You could then precede to nest triangles, each 1/3 the perimeter of the last ad infinitum ( in other words, never reaching an area of 0).
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Angel of Death said
"A male equilateral triangle, with three " separate" circles within, that fill the body of the triangle.The circles are not interlocking, but are touching ( tangent?)."
Sounds to me like a representation of the Supernals."
Well that's interesting,
Watched a documentary on angels before bed...
The symbol was golden tooDidn't find much on Google regarding that keyword...... Except for
www.steliart.com/angelology_angelic_orders.htmlAnd if I keyword. first Order of angels...... Well that resulted in.....too much malarkey to weed through...
In my dream, the image was on a robe, which was worn by asexual being of light....
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@Uni_Verse said
"A small , mathematical commentary...
@Angel of Death said
"The circles are not interlocking, but are touching ( tangent?)."
Each of the circles would posses a tangential relationship with the other two circles in addition to two sides of the triangle.
By connecting the centers of the three inscribed circles, a second equilateral triangle is formed with a perimeter equal to 1/3 of the equilateral triangle it is contained within.
You could then precede to nest triangles, each 1/3 the perimeter of the last ad infinitum ( in other words, never reaching an area of 0)."
Very, very helpful....
And looking at your avatar has been illuminating as well.....
The image I saw, was one dimensional, a plain, yet
My waking mind seems to want to make it multi dimensional,As I look at the images I am drawing here , on my notepad, doing this geometry, I am able to see the platonic solids, which brings me to think of Metatron.
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I see this was moved out of General Topics......
So considering that this is now a real topic....
I have looked and looked for this symbol.
SymbolS.com. BTW is a excellent resource to look at symbols and find brief entries. Alas as I looked through the entire site, I didn't find the symbol I was looking for.
An equilateral triangle was described
www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/28/281.htmlPersonal revelance, birth date 218, weight 128.....
Did make me question why a trine in astrology is 120 degrees, when the degrees of the triangle are 180?
The three circles were like this, but a bit closer together, and inside the triangle
www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/26/2638.htmlCurious as to what types of oil this is in reference to? I don't think it is petro, but more likely olive, or another such lamp oil.
Considering my research into finance, banking, economics and ancient civilizations, I was struck by the reference to money lenders....
And the note about silver.....I was compelled to do some math, added the degrees total, (3x360+180) and came up with 1260.
Googled that gematria and went to here
www.billheidrick.com/works/hgm5/hg1230.htmSo I was curious if any one could enlighten me as to what the hebrew letters on that link mean, spell out?
Or like in the thread Here...
<!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="http://www.heruraha.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8623&p=57244#p57244">viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8623&p=57244#p57244</a><!-- l -->Where as that numerical equation spelled out that specific phrase, does 1260 also spell a real phrase?
Apparently in the bible this number has some significance, and I am still looking into what that may mean to me, and what this all has to do with this strange dream....
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@Angel of Death said
"Did make me question why a trine in astrology is 120 degrees, when the degrees of the triangle are 180?"
The interior angles are each 60°, or 180° total. The trine, however, is measuring the angular separation between (one way to say it) any two points on the equilateral triangle if it were contained within a circle.
"The three circles were like this, but a bit closer together, and inside the triangle
www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/26/2638.html "As mentioned before, the whole is a perfect (and occasionally used) symbol for the Supernals.
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Just a note: I was reminded of the Hierophant's three-fold wand by your tri-ring. Perhaps try to extract a color or two from your Undermind. Green, Yellow, Purple are the aeonic colors present on his wand sequentially, if my memory of The Book of Thoth is correct. Maybe if you get the colors, it's the Heirophant that has some light to manifest for you....
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Angel of Death said
"Did make me question why a trine in astrology is 120 degrees, when the degrees of the triangle are 180?"The interior angles are each 60°, or 180° total. The trine, however, is measuring the angular separation between (one way to say it) any two points on the equilateral triangle if it were contained within a circle.
Well, that makes things much clearer, but sort of seems to negate my math idea...
"The three circles were like this, but a bit closer together, and inside the triangle
www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/26/2638.html "As mentioned before, the whole is a perfect (and occasionally used) symbol for the Supernals."
Pout,
Yes, I see.
Ok no actually I don't, I am not finding the symbol in any printed or published form, which is weird...because I was sure I had seen it before.And so I must ask to clarify,
By this are you referring to the first choir of Angels?
or the The three spheres in the Qabalah.
And to further clarify, just In case you just respond yes,
Are those two things separate? -
@Angel of Death said
"The three circles were like this, but a bit closer together, and inside the triangle
www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/26/2638.html"
Funnily, when I went to this page, there was an ad at the bottom the showed a yellow triangle against a black background, and a human head in the triangle that left spaces in each of the corners. -
@Angel of Death said
"Yes, I see.
Ok no actually I don't, I am not finding the symbol in any printed or published form, which is weird...because I was sure I had seen it before.And so I must ask to clarify,
By this are you referring to the first choir of Angels?
or the The three spheres in the Qabalah.
And to further clarify, just In case you just respond yes,
Are those two things separate?"The three Sephiroth: Among many other things, that "fire triangle" refers to the Supernals all by itself - and the arrangement of the three circles within it reinforces this enormously. - I'm not saying that's the only thing that it could be, just that it's one of the most obvious, usual, and perhaps compelling things that it could be.
The best symbols aren't in books
PS - Re "choirs of angels," those are dealt with so many different ways by so many different authors (differing from the distinctive Qabalistic/Kabbalistic use as well) that I usually pay little attention when I see those rankings. But... not sure what you're reaching for here... I wouldn't say that the Sephiroth are the same as any groupings of angels (though one could say that the Qabalistic groupings of choirs of angels are essentially the same as the Sephiroth in Yetzirah).
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Since you found my previous post to be of interest...
Let us propose that the radius of each circle is 3
Each being the same, tells us that it is an equilateral triangleLet us imagine this figure super-imposed on a Cartesian co-ordinate plane
With two of the circles resting on the x-axis, intersecting when x = (0,0)
By this we find the circle to the right of the y-axis is centered at (3,3)Were there a line that passed through (3,3), the slope would be -1/2
Being that the triangle is equilateral , the split angle is 60
Meaning as it passes through the vertex of the triangle, the center of the circle
Form is given to a 30 degree angle, a slope of 1/2
(The circle is on the right side of the y-axis, so we take the negative of the slope)Now, let us calculate the y-intercept of this line (thereby deriving its equation):
y = -1/2 * x + b
3 = (-1/2) * 3 + b
3 + 3 * (1/2) = b
9/2 = bSetting y=0, we solve for x:
0 = -1/2 * x + 9/2
-9/2 = -x / 2
-9 = -x
x = 9Allowing us to deduce that the length of one side is twice that (2x) or 18
Leaving us, finally, to triple (3(2x)) and a perimeter of 54 -
Thank you for clarifying,
Had some great meditations with this symbol since then...
And I have a few lead as to the deeper meaning this dream meant to me....
As for the best symbols not being in books.....
I think if I looked in the right place I would see this symbol published, but it would not be in the form I saw, but in a musical notations book...@Jim Eshelman said
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@Angel of Death said
"Yes, I see.
Ok no actually I don't, I am not finding the symbol in any printed or published form, which is weird...because I was sure I had seen it before.And so I must ask to clarify,
By this are you referring to the first choir of Angels?
or the The three spheres in the Qabalah.
And to further clarify, just In case you just respond yes,
Are those two things separate?"The three Sephiroth: Among many other things, that "fire triangle" refers to the Supernals all by itself - and the arrangement of the three circles within it reinforces this enormously. - I'm not saying that's the only thing that it could be, just that it's one of the most obvious, usual, and perhaps compelling things that it could be.
The best symbols aren't in books
PS - Re "choirs of angels," those are dealt with so many different ways by so many different authors (differing from the distinctive Qabalistic/Kabbalistic use as well) that I usually pay little attention when I see those rankings. But... not sure what you're reaching for here... I wouldn't say that the Sephiroth are the same as any groupings of angels (though one could say that the Qabalistic groupings of choirs of angels are essentially the same as the Sephiroth in Yetzirah)."
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I really like the way you talk....
Math is like wine,
Or poetry
Or a good joke,It's music to my ears,
And really turns me on.I hope you have a honey who you can whisper sweet equations too,
I love it when my hubby talks shop with me,That was hot.
@Uni_Verse said
"Since you found my previous post to be of interest...
Let us propose that the radius of each circle is 3
Each being the same, tells us that it is an equilateral triangleLet us imagine this figure super-imposed on a Cartesian co-ordinate plane
With two of the circles resting on the x-axis, intersecting when x = (0,0)
By this we find the circle to the right of the y-axis is centered at (3,3)Were there a line that passed through (3,3), the slope would be -1/2
Being that the triangle is equilateral , the split angle is 60
Meaning as it passes through the vertex of the triangle, the center of the circle
Form is given to a 30 degree angle, a slope of 1/2
(The circle is on the right side of the y-axis, so we take the negative of the slope)Now, let us calculate the y-intercept of this line (thereby deriving its equation):
y = -1/2 * x + b
3 = (-1/2) * 3 + b
3 + 3 * (1/2) = b
9/2 = bSetting y=0, we solve for x:
0 = -1/2 * x + 9/2
-9/2 = -x / 2
-9 = -x
x = 9Allowing us to deduce that the length of one side is twice that (2x) or 18
Leaving us, finally, to triple (3(2x)) and a perimeter of 54" -
This is not exactly your symbol, but it has 3 circles and I am so fond of it:
The Banner of Peace, (Pax Cultura), as defined by the Roerich Pact of 1935, for the protection of cultural property during armed conflicts.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Banner_of_Peace_from_the_Roerich_Pact.svgIt was designed by artist and mystic Nicholas Roerich
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Wow!
That really blew me away.
I was totally unfamiliar with this, but considering the contxe to the dream the symbol was in.....
WOW.As an aquarius I feel very strongly about this, how each culture IS a treasure, and how the world becomes less, when we loose cultures, peoples, species.
The preservation of cultures and species has been something I have activly worked for, most all of my life. In fact it is where my true passion lays, my TrueWill flowers and I get to Let My Life Speak.
Absolutely fascinating, I thank you deeply for sharing your insights and knowledge.
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You should all check out Nicholas Roerich's paintings.
www.roerich.org/collections.htmlHe did a lot of landscapes, and many spiritual themes. My favorite painting of his is titled "Mother of the World":
www.wikipaintings.org/en/nicholas-roerich/mother-of-the-world-1937