poor neglected Hermes
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I was asking you to define "Hermeticism" as you're using it. There are various usages or definitions.
Among the leaxing usages, it is substantially the thing you said you didn't want: the Hermetic Qabalah with a smattering of alchemy.
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Giovanni Pico Dela Mirandola wrote an opinion editorial piece in 1486 AD. Its title was Oration on the Dignity of Man. Historians see this single paper as being so important as to deem it the "Manifesto of the Italian Renaissance". Allow me to quote the very beginning of the oration. What appears below is literally the first two sentences from the start of the oration.
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Most esteemed Fathers, I have read in the ancient writings of the Arabians that Abdala the Saracen on being asked what, on this stage, so to say, of the world, seemed to him most evocative of wonder, replied that there was nothing to be seen more marvelous than man. And that celebrated exclamation of Hermes Trismegistus, ``What a great miracle is man, Asclepius'' confirms this opinion.
"Two sentences in, and Hermes Trismegistus and Asclepius are already mentioned by name. At the bottom of the oration, Mirandola carries on about Zoroaster, heaping only the highest praise on him.
(for the un-initiated. Hermes T was an Egyptian priest, and Asclepius was one of his disciples. Zoroastrianism was the major religion of Persia for over 9 centuries, up until the 7th century, where they were conquered by a Muslim caliphate. The modern symbol for medicine, which is two snakes wrapped around a winged staff, is the staff given to Asclepius, sometimes called the Staff of Hermes. The symbology used to represent Zoroaster is indistinguishable from the winged disc of Horus.)
European culture suddenly exploded in scientific and technological upheavel in the next 100 years following Mirandola's oration. Doubtlessly you have all heard the common historical story that the reniassance was a "revival of greek learning". This is the biggest lie in history.
Tycho Brahe, Michelangelo, Mirandola, Giordano Bruno, Paracelsus, Johannes Kepler, Isaac Newton --- all were Hermeticists, and many of them were practicing alchemists. In 1574, Kepler gave lectures in the middle of the day at his university on the subject of Hermetic cosmology. On the History Channel, they pretend as if Newton were riding a white horse in colorful suits when he was formulating gravity, optics, and mechanics. But they depict his interest in alchemy as a superstitious vice. They show him doing alchemy in the darkness of his basement late at night in tattered robes. The fact of history is that Isaac Newton himself did not separate alchemy out from anything else he was doing. Even the quote-un-quote "hard science" he was doing he himself considered alchemical and/or occult knowledge.
Some Italian friar in 1570 AD started running around writing about how the "sun is a star" and that there are an "infinite number of stars" in the sky. Where did this obscure friar get these ideas? Did he get them from The Bible? Absolutely no. He got these ideas from Egyptian cosmology, in particular the conception of Nuit. In 1600 he was burnt at the stake for being a heretic. His name was Giordano Bruno.
Historians and history has white-washed all of these facts out of their books. Due to religious sensitivities, Hermes's name is erased out of history, as Zoroaster's name has been. Basically, "good ol'" Christian or agnostic teachers could not tell their school children the names of Egyptian priests. The motivation for this cover-up was simple. Because the JEWS OF EXODUS were the good guys, the civilization they were escaping from must have been evil as well naive about the universe! Hermes and Zoroaster are too inconvenient to a Euro-centric, Christian-centric worldview. School teachers could not name Egyptian priests because then the school children would become curious about them and want to know more.
Like many of you probably reading this post, you were lied to about what the renaissance was in Europe. You were lied to about the scientific revolutions in medicine, cosmology, astronomy, and physics of the coming years. I was too. And I think what hurts the most is that Carl Sagan lied to me. He lied to me about Johannes Kepler. For me personally, Sagan is probably the biggest betrayal.
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I don't know if you are ready to hear this or not, but
Gulp....Your parents lied to you about Santa Claus, AND the Easter Bunny. They probably looked right into your little eyes and lied.....
And they loved you.I have heard arguments like yours from a select few before, that the teachings of the Dravidians, the Kamites, and the Canaanites were suppressed and destroyed by white Europeans on purpose.
I refuse to play the part of victim, it really doesn't help the situation at all.
So now that you know that their is no one physical being who visits good children and blesses them with candy and toys, but it is a collective ideal that humanity has embraced in an attempt to bring out the best in us,
What you do with the information, is what is Important.
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Well anyways, yeah. So you have to imagine Carl Sagan's distinctive voice saying in his slow, declarative manner:
@Carl Sagan said
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"... a triumph of Secular Humanism, Science, and Reason over the superstition of religions. blah blah ..."
"He was doing some creative history re-writes there. All of the major scientific advances of the 16th and 17th centuries were all made by occultists.
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@Zos said
"Well anyways, yeah. So you have to imagine Carl Sagan's distinctive voice saying in his slow, declarative manner:
@Carl Sagan said
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"... a triumph of Secular Humanism, Science, and Reason over the superstition of religions. blah blah ..."
"He was doing some creative history re-writes there. All of the major scientific advances of the 16th and 17th centuries were all made by occultists."
Occultists engaging in something far more scientific than anything else going on at the time.
I don't see how there's a contradiction.
