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Two small, (mostly)unrelated questions.

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    1. What are the elemental attributions of the chapters in Liber LXV? I assumed it would go by the typical order of Tetragrammaton, concluding with Spirit, but that's just my guess.

    2. Has anyone ever applied the pseudoscience of graphology(never seen the legitimacy of this practice verified in front of me, but it makes sense to me that psychological dispositions could possibly be revealed by one's handwriting) to Crowley's handwriting? I think it would be interesting to note any differences in his handwriting during different colors of trance, i.e. that in the original manuscript of Liber AL compared to that contained in his diaries. Would it be possible to detect the presence of a different kind of intelligence(different than that of the 'normal', waking ego) in the mind of the scribe by analyzing the handwriting from these differing states of consciousness? That's what I'm wondering.

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    @Duo Columpnas said

    "1. What are the elemental attributions of the chapters in Liber LXV? I assumed it would go by the typical order of Tetragrammaton, concluding with Spirit, but that's just my guess."

    If you meant going backwards, that's exactly right: Earth, Air, Water, Fire, Spirit.

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    Thank ye kindly.

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    I have looked in to graphyology, looking at the handwriting samples I have of the female kins auograpghs and poetry in a book I have.
    i own a few reference books of the subject, and I do see validity in its practice. from analysis of my own work, I have noted a difference in my style when in tranced compared to my personal lucid writing. i havent looked at more then a scant amout of AC handwriting to say anything of value about it though.

    i fear that with the digital age, this science will slowly fade away in understanding, but it has been used very successfully by humanity for only a short period of time, realitvely.

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    I, personally, wouldn't expect much from graphology. Crowley's hand was not possessed. Yes, he does seem to have been in a trance at times, but he was largely just recording audible dictation--and clearly writing very quickly.

    I know a few people who, as an experiment, had someone read the first chapter of Liber AL aloud at the right pace to take an hour while the rest copied down the dicatation. All found it quite difficult to write as quickly as the time limit demanded for a solid, uninterrupted hour. So I assume that speed and stress would be the primary results of handwriting analysis.

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    @Iamus said

    "I, personally, wouldn't expect much from graphology. Crowley's hand was not possessed. Yes, he does seem to have been in a trance at times, but he was largely just recording audible dictation--and clearly writing very quickly.

    I know a few people who, as an experiment, had someone read the first chapter of Liber AL aloud at the right pace to take an hour while the rest copied down the dicatation. All found it quite difficult to write as quickly as the time limit demanded for a solid, uninterrupted hour. So I assume that speed and stress would be the primary results of handwriting analysis."

    I guess I forgot that Crowley was quite clear on it being dictated(it's easy to just belittle it as a tranced-out aspect of his unconscious excited to speech), and it's a point well taken; that experiment is an interesting one, seems an obvious thing try now that I read it.
    Thank you both for your input.

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