Everything is Different
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
"All things have difference in common" would also be another way to convey what I mean by the title of this thread.
Even if two objects have the exact same characteristics in every way, they still have to occupy different places in space in order to exist separately from one another. So therein lies a difference.
Does anyone disagree with this? If so, can you provide an example as proof of your position?
I think difference gets a kind of "bad rap" in the "Thelemic" community... And I am well aware that this is mostly (if not entirely) due to the words of Nuit.
But here, I am seeing difference in a different light.
Isn't difference ubiquitous? Isn't existence predicated upon difference? What are some of the implications here?
Looking forward to discussing this with you all. Thanks again to Mr. Eshelman and the College of Thelema for extending their reach to this form of open communication.
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Practice discrimination. Just don't practice bigotry.
PS - I'm not just talking about demographics. I'm talking about everything in range of perception.
Of COURSE all things share difference. The key of "making no difference between things" is to understand their distinctions but place no greater or lesser valuation on each thing because of these differences.
PPS - See the movie Lincoln, currently in circulation. Tommy Lee Jones' character expresses this splendidly in a moment of finding his authentic, truthful voice.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
@Jim Eshelman said
"Practice discrimination. Just don't practice bigotry.
PS - I'm not just talking about demographics. I'm talking about everything in range of perception.
Of COURSE all things share difference. The key of "making no difference between things" is to under their distinctions but place no greater or lesser valuation on each thing because of these differences.
PPS - See the movie Lincoln, currently in circulation. Tommy Lee Jones' character expresses this splendidly in a moment of finding his authentic, truthful voice."
Thank you so much! Really; I can't thank you enough.
I have nowhere else to turn to talk about things of this nature, especially in terms of the context of Thelema and the writings of Aleister Crowley, which I am most comfortable with. You are providing me more than I could have ever hoped for with your guidance and teachings.
I could cry tears of joy...really!
Truth be told, the information I am sharing in this thread was not thought up by me at all. It came to me years ago at a time where I was most consumed by the Mysteries of Life and its designs, in a dream that coalesced into a moment of not only having all of this answered, but more than I could have ever imagined or hoped for.
There have been moments where I've recognized what the start of this thread is talking about without making any connection to the dream I had, thinking I thought of this all by myself. Its taken me almost 4 years to recognize that this dream lies at the very heart and crux of my personal mythology.
I am working on a writing of everything that happened there. But again, I do feel as if I am failing by building all of this up as something so important to me!
I am sure I still have much more work to do, and a long way down the path to go before the end is even remotely in sight.
Thanks again for being there with me along the way.
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Every thing is different, every one is the same.
In less loaded terms : now allowing those differences to define our perceptions and reactions.
Where, you could place a thing beneath a label, give it a turn.
Place the corresponding shape in the corresponding hole.
Though while possible, even easy, does not mean that it was what was mean to be.
It was just what happened.Relative to motion, that is.
As I suppose two could see what there is really to see by standing still.
Then what are you that sees ?
All those corresponding questions;
Discriminating answers into a flow chart
Finding out how far it might bring youThen you end up back where you started
And start starting again
Having now seen x, y z you perceive a, b, c
And while your understanding may not have grown
Your knowledge is more complex
By whose formula your derive a new notion@Dara said
"Were you drunk, high, or being sarcastic when you wrote this?"
The more pertinent question, me thinks:
What the OP was drunk, high or being sarcastic on when writing that.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
@Dara said
"Were you drunk, high, or being sarcastic when you wrote this?"
Still riding on the emotional high from this year's Thanksgiving, I guess.
I meant what I said, though. I've been coming here for a couple of years now, and I don't really get to connect with people over this kind of subject matter as often as I would like, let alone get feedback from someone with anything remotely like Mr. Eshelman's pedigree.
I get excited about things like that. I also get very upset sometimes. I don't really see it being a problem being on the end of an emotional extreme since I also return to the neutral ground of my consciousness from time to time, and I'm making a point to do that more often than I have been.
I didn't mean to take anything away from the original topic of the thread, even though that doesn't really seem to have anything to do with why you are posting here...
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
@Jim Eshelman said
"Of COURSE all things share difference. The key of "making no difference between things" is to understand their distinctions but place no greater or lesser valuation on each thing because of these differences."
After further meditation, it finally dawned on me that the verse in question implicitly instructs us to not make any difference among us between "any one thing & any other thing"... I see a distinction here between the inherit diversity of the forms of life and what we might call "projecting meaning." It seems to speak to honoring what is manifest by witnessing it as closely as possible, specifically by not putting your own psychological stuff between you and the Vision.
