The Law of Thelema and the Three Schools of Magick.
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@Patthana Gati said
" It is Energy, Gravity, Spacetime and Matter and the exchange between these universals. "
What of an entity such as an Angel , which could be said to have no material aspect?
Or are they not considered conscious, or only conscious when brought forth by a conscious entity (thus becoming a vessel for a projected consciousness) ?
@Patthana Gati said
" Whatever the case may be, as energy transits spacetime by the pull of gravity and spacetime is bent around matter to produce complex forms, consciousness is always uniting with different parts of spacetime - continually moving and changing position. Therefore the funtionalism of consciousness is summarised as 'Will'.
"What causes gravity to pull or have an effect ?
I was playing around with the idea of gravity resulting from the interaction of the white hole at the center of each material entity with that of the black hole we are located within ; said interaction causing a yin-yang spin (that is to say, a map of this would construct a yin-yang figure)?
@Patthana Gati said
"If no-one ever see's the mountain then the presence of the mountain will still generate qualia in spacetime due to the functionalism of Consciousness. "
Essentially, the mountain exists due to its experience of itself?
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@Patthana Gati said
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I don't think anything partaking of consciousness can do so without matter. Even if that matter is the planet we're all bouncing around on, or a perfect diamond at the heart of a Star. "While I might agree that consciousness either arises from the previous interactions (or is the cause - there a difference?)
The distinct requirement of matter...
It goes along with my experiences, though, the notion bothers me in a way I can not fathom at the moment.@Patthana Gati said
"Let me ask you a question which I think will help clarify things. If you think of any encounters you may have had with an angel, and then strip away all it's qualia - it's usually humanoid shape, it's various elemental weapons, it's colour etc then what are you left with? "
Nothing.
Is that not the same for all things?
To be fair, I have never really just summoned or invoked an Angel to chat
Maybe I should...Again, that need for something material, if only 'as little as a point' in order to focus consciousness.
Again, asking - while there is correlation, it is necessary?I am just bouncing around some ideas.
As I feel I do not disagree, yet do not agree... HEH@Patthana Gati said
"People looking for the reason why the universe is expanding and accelerating rather than slowing down have proposed dark energy as the repulsive force while alternative controversial theories say that antimatter is a gravitationally repulsive element. "
Ah, yes, I had not even taken that into consideration at the time I made the query.
I would not say it derails my little mini theory there - the source of the dark energy could be the white holes.I do not know if it has been mentioned:
Recent research has been suggesting that Black Holes emit particles, matter
Essentially breaking down what ever it takes in to its smallest constituent parts
Before releasing it back into the universe slowly over time
These particles pop into existence, just beyond the even horizon, floating away
The black hole never releasing more than it has consumed -
Simply put:
White Extends
Black Absorbs
Yellow ObservesIn practice:
White School initiates, passing, building on what they know.
Black School obscures,perverts, destroys all power rests with one
Yellow School observes, preserves, all methods without judgement.Yellow Kings shall rule in accordance with the Tao
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I don't know, I think you are somewhat confusing the idea of the three schools. I always thought that the black school was like Buddhism or Christianity, about all being sorrow, so, I always thought that it had to do with making it more white, in terms of making it more about joy rather than sorrow.
I always thought the yellow school, like the above posters says, was the indifferent school.
The white school, I guess I'm still confused about. I suppose it would be the opposite of the black school.
Admittedly it has been a while since I read magick without tears. I always loved that book, but it isn't the book of the law, just Crowleys ramblings about magick where he tried to be clear, and actually made sense, considering that most of the rest of his work is talking over peoples heads.
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White school: Tantric (ironically in the east the left hand path, not to confuse with what is meant by that in the west)
Yellow school: Taoist, Zen and co.
Black school: Existentialist, for example Vajrayana Buddhism. Has nothing at all to do with the Black Lodge or left-hand path in western occultism.
Black Lodge: Criminal masterminds in real life, usually. There are none of those not very, very rich. Know humanity in and out but got stuck on some egotistical crap so everything is skew-wise for them. The ultimate psychopaths. Not La Vey people etc. Left-handed brothers of Crowley's definition would consider them child's play.Anyone not of sound health physically and mentally will even have an average live - and no one who can't easily create an average live from the drop of a hat can call themselves adept.
And no one not an adept can claim anything about mastery.
The above definitions are those that Crowley delivered, everyone here has read him so I needn't exert myself with lots of citations.
I do not see how the distinction of these schools is relevant to anyone below adept (K&C) level. Except as to play Harry Potter as Los wrote to my great amusement.
My 2 cents.
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It's relevant in the points of contention.. I could label myself white, therein my black brothers will say "hey, you know you're a nice guy and quite heroically well adjusted."
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@Patthana Gati said
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@chris S said
"It's relevant in the points of contention.. I could label myself white, therein my black brothers will say "hey, you know you're a nice guy and quite heroically well adjusted."
My Buddhist background says nothing is sacred.. Hell might as well call everything sacred. "My yellow school background asks 'is Chris a Sagittarius?' "
lol.. no Aries.