Babalon and Therion
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Thanks, Jim! It looks like we're all waiting for it...
Is there an expected date of release?
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Thanks guys. Nothing that "for sure" - we kinda depleted our reserve funds reprinting The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. a while back, so I have to do some fund raising or wait for the coffers to regenerate over time. I'd like to have it out some time this summer, though. (I've been keeping people posted on developments on my Facebook fan page.)
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Thanks guys. Nothing that "for sure" - we kinda depleted our reserve funds reprinting The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. a while back, so I have to do some fund raising or wait for the coffers to regenerate over time. I'd like to have it out some time this summer, though. (I've been keeping people posted on developments on my Facebook fan page.)"
So you didn't make it all back selling copies of that book then? Then again, what should I expect from Thelema, too many thelemites take after Crowley's financial habits of wasting money.
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@Shadow Self said
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Thanks guys. Nothing that "for sure" - we kinda depleted our reserve funds reprinting The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. a while back, so I have to do some fund raising or wait for the coffers to regenerate over time. I'd like to have it out some time this summer, though. (I've been keeping people posted on developments on my Facebook fan page.)"So you didn't make it all back selling copies of that book then? Then again, what should I expect from Thelema, too many thelemites take after Crowley's financial habits of wasting money."
Our margin isn't large. A printing of M&MAA will run out in two or three years, and we'll eventually recover that; but it won't be in the next six months. - V&V brought in enough to replenish so M&MAA could be reprinted, etc. We keep rolling over from one to the next, and we've published quite a lot the last few years so the pace caught up with us.
And to give you an idea of where this falls in the marketplace: For an occult book to be in the top 100,000 best selling books on Amazon.com is doing really well. When a book first comes out, we tend to hover in the 40,000-75,000 range for three or four months, and that start weaving between about 100,000 and 1,000,000 rhythmically as things sell. For example, today (right this minute):
Visions & Voices ranks 1,140,997 (I don't think a copy has sold all week)
776 1/2 ranks 247,360 (it had a good week)
The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. ranks 513,287 (it had a mediocre week)For comparison, Gunther's book ranks 241,666 (he had a decent week) - his sales and those of M&MAA and 776.5 tend to happen at about the same time (people of similar interests buying a bunch of books at the same time). Book 4, despite its size and cost,remains a good seller and is about 54,000 at the moment. In the publishing community, all of these numbers suck; but within the occult publishing community, they're pretty routine.
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
@Jim Eshelman said
"[An excerpt from an introductory chapter of a book currently in progress.]"
Very much looking forward to this. Will it contain much content from your recent talks on such things like the Star principle, and living Thelema as a form Karma Yoga? I would greatly enjoy reading more on those topics.
@Jim Eshelman said
"In Thelema, the more accessible parent archetypes are expressed by stepped-down versions of Nuit and Hadit associated with Qabalistic ideas called Binah (the Great Mother) and Chokmah (the Great Father)."
This is an important point I may be overlooking. So Binah and Chokmah are too far down to be represented by Nuit and Hadit? I recall from one of the Essays on Qabalah that Kether in Ain Soph is one formation of Hadit in the body of Nuit, but I wonder if we need to use the Emanations at all for the most accurate representation.
I think the symbolism works itself out in the veils quite nicely if we take Ain as "Nothing; Nothing is," and Ain Soph as "Negative Existence; Nothing is not." Ain would be Hadit and Ain Soph again would be Nuit. This also leads me to further considerations of Ra-Hoor-Khuit as Tipheret, Hoor-paar-kraat (Harpocrates) as Keter, and Heru-ra-ha as Ain Soph Aur. I am curious if there's any significance to these considerations in light of how the A.'. A.'. Qabalistically understands these things.
Thanks again for sharing so much of your new work with us, Jim!
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@Zalthos said
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@Jim Eshelman said
"[An excerpt from an introductory chapter of a book currently in progress.]"Very much looking forward to this. Will it contain much content from your recent talks on such things like the Star principle, and living Thelema as a form Karma Yoga? I would greatly enjoy reading more on those topics."
There's more than a little of that, yes. I actually took the notes of the NYC talk as the starting outline for working up large parts of the introductory chapters.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"In Thelema, the more accessible parent archetypes are expressed by stepped-down versions of Nuit and Hadit associated with Qabalistic ideas called Binah (the Great Mother) and Chokmah (the Great Father)."This is an important point I may be overlooking. So Binah and Chokmah are too far down to be represented by Nuit and Hadit?"
I would certainly say so. Nuit is 0. Hadit is 1 (a specific 1 out of the infinite possibilities.) 2 and 3 are "lower" ideas than either of these. (Much what you said in the sentences following.)
"I think the symbolism works itself out in the veils quite nicely if we take Ain as "Nothing; Nothing is," and Ain Soph as "Negative Existence; Nothing is not." Ain would be Hadit and Ain Soph again would be Nuit."
That totally loses the core essence of Hadit as a single, nondimensional, unextended, uncharacdterized point. (Which BTW is also the basic idea of Kether.)
Ayin and Ayin Sof are the same thing - just seen with different eyes. Ayin is "nothing" - as if (to drag it down to a physical example) an interior with nothing in it. Ayin Sof is "limitless," i.e., "infinite" - exactly the same space viewed as being composed of an infinite number of nondimensional points. One of these we call "None," and the other we call "All" - and they're the same thing. Neither of them is a single unextended point.
"Thanks again for sharing so much of your new work with us, Jim!"
You're welcome
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
@Jim Eshelman said
"I would certainly say so. Nuit is 0. Hadit is 1 (a specific 1 out of the infinite possibilities.) 2 and 3 are "lower" ideas than either of these. (Much what you said in the sentences following.)
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Ayin and Ayin Sof are the same thing - just seen with different eyes. Ayin is "nothing" - as if (to drag it down to a physical example) an interior with nothing in it. Ayin Sof is "limitless," i.e., "infinite" - exactly the same space viewed as being composed of an infinite number of nondimensional points. One of these we call "None," and the other we call "All" - and they're the same thing. Neither of them is a single unextended point."
This is very helpful. I see what you mean by Ayin and Ayin Sof being two perspectives of the the same thing (that hadn't occurred to me) being represented by Nuit, and how Keter is clearly represented by Hadit. Since I haven't read much (or anything I can recollect off-hand) concerning what is represented Qabalistically by Heru-ra-ha, Hoor-paar-kraat, and Ra-hoor-khuit, I drew my own conclusions. It is obviously beneficial to have a complete picture rather than working with fragments, and, indeed, much of my study feels like grasping in the dark to connect a few dots.
@Jim Eshelman said
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"I think the symbolism works itself out in the veils quite nicely if we take Ain as "Nothing; Nothing is," and Ain Soph as "Negative Existence; Nothing is not." Ain would be Hadit and Ain Soph again would be Nuit."That totally loses the core essence of Hadit as a single, nondimensional, unextended, uncharacdterized point. (Which BTW is also the basic idea of Kether.)"
What can I say: I wouldn't know half of what I do if I was ever afraid of being wrong. I hate to fill up your boards with drivel and terrible ideas, but I like to think I've brought up a few good points from time to time that make for worthwhile reading.
It will be good to have your new work to lay in more basics I might be missing out on. Looking forward to it.
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@Zalthos said
"I wouldn't know half of what I do if I was ever afraid of being wrong."
Here lieth great wisdom
Verily it is written: Thou must open thy mouth a let bad ideas flow out freely. Thus do they stop blocking the fucking hallways for the good ideas that follow. Amen.