Can Masters reincarnate? Do they?
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On the question of reincarnating Masters and Ipsissimi, I had a thought a few weeks ago.
Crowley puts "93" in above "666" and "777" in some imprimaturs for libri. This is in reference to Aiwass, certainly, whose number is 93 and of whom Crowley wrote:
"a man as I am, insofar as He uses a human body to make His magical link with Mankind, whom He loves, and that He is thus an Ipsissimus, the Head of the A∴A∴" (Genesis Libri AL cap. VII, Magick part IV).
Okay. So let's say one's HGA is an Ipsissimus. Consider also the A∴A∴ rule about not attaining to a higher grade without preparing one's student to advance as well (the bodhisattva vow, in essence).
Ipsissimus is said to be beyond all understanding of those below it. But one could speculate: By bringing one's own "client" to be ready to become an Ipsissimus, perhaps the "senior" Ipsissimus becomes able to go on to whatever their next step of development is? Something beyond the Tree that we mere mortals can come to grips with?
Maybe just an idle thought, but it might be an interesting angle to put on the HGA/Adept relationship.
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@sk4p said
"Consider also the A∴A∴ rule about not attaining to a higher grade without preparing one's student to advance as well (the bodhisattva vow, in essence)."
"The rule... is never relaxed in the Order of the R.C. or of the S.S.: save only in One Case." - One Star in Sight
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@sk4p said
"Heh. Idle thought, then, I guess.
(I hadn't previously considered that "One" being capitalized in that verse might mean something subtle ...)"With Crowley and typography, damn near everything means something subtle <vbg>.
Now, whether it means the particular thing that my vague inference stirred as a projection in your psyche... well, that's a separate question LOL.
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When your mind state is free of the five hindrances and your concentration is especially strong you enter the first jhana of pleasant sensations. It takes much practice and remember patience is very important. You may not experience your first jhanic state until many years of practice.". From wiki. What would we reincarnate as if we have experienced jhana one?
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@gerry456 said
"What would we reincarnate as if we have experienced jhana one?"
First, these technical details are distinctive to Buddhist theory, and may or may not be true as stated.
But, actually, it doesn't matter if they are, because the answer is the same in either case: The matter of reincarnation is utterly individual. There's not a manual in the sense of vacation spot brochures.
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@Jim Eshelman said
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But, actually, it doesn't matter if they are, because the answer is the same in either case: The matter of reincarnation is utterly individual. There's not a manual in the sense of vacation spot brochures."I was thinking more in terms of the hierarchy i.e. plants, animals, humans, magician/mystics and the possibility of returning as a plant or animal;
It's an ISKCON poster.
If a being has attained to a particular jhana I would say that the future incarnation would involve a rediscovery of that jhana.
Also these jhanas (or "ecstacies" of the Christian mystics) seem to be trans-aeonic.
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I think it really depends on what you mean by "masters" and what you mean by "reincarnation."
The "divine" (One Thing) is eternal, as such does not die, and thereby there is no need for reincarnation in the common western sense.
The idea of self most people have is misaligned with the reality of Self. There is only One Thing, and humans are a reflection of the One Thing, an expression of it. Our particular "personality" is transient in life, and thereby there is no reason to consider the extension of such beyond physical death. Eventually our attachment to it becomes a stumbling block on the path.
Masters have largely overcome this misalignment of Self and are consciously at one with the "divine" (One Thing). Personality and its various trappings no longer present a condition of separateness to them. Thereby the transition to death is a shedding of "physical form," and "there is that which remains" with which the "master" has found conscious union.
Expression of the divine is constant and expanding, and thereby continuously manifesting. In this sense once a "master" has passed from the physical form, the conscious union formed in life is extended as the divine constantly expresses and expands.
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Awesome answer augar, please, if you will see the new thread on the Bardos/Tibetan Buddhist dieties in the Mysticism section.
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