College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

@anistara said

"I guess for me personally, it's all too recent for it to hold the same or similar values as King Arthur, but may in time. It's a hard one since I've been taught to correct errors by elders of whom I am sure are fairly tapped in, in their own right/rite. Respect there. And in lieu of the occult, I appreciate your input in case I lose sight of that. It's all bridge work to me.

Silly misnomers being brought to the attention of actual facts seems, to me, a valuable tool, especially in light of our current education system. We're still in that window of correction. And I know for a fact that people believe certain misnomers and like to know the actuality of it before it slips into lost knowledge.

It's all kind of romantic to me at the same time, even when it gets my goat!!"

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Agreed.... Man this site is great. Definitely brings out the thinkers in quite a scholarly manner!

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@Jim Eshelman said

"I tend to think of these things not as lies, especially because the real facts are widely known.

Rather, I think of them as myths. Not myths in the sense of untruths, but rather in the sense of culturall-defining and -directing legends.

Most of what we deal with in magick is bullshit in the sense of Assiah-level facts. But Assiah is only one plane. Most or all of what we deal with in magick is absolutely true on some plane deeper than Assiah, and is fuelled by the same torrent of vitality and fuels real myth.

I've long held that the historicity of the King Arthur legend barely matters at all in the face of the particular form of the Arthur legend that has come down to us - because its persistence and evolution has conformed to something fundamental in humanity's collective psyche."

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Another good call there Jim. You are right, and I should re-state a bit. Lies aren't quite it either. That kinda smacks @ "Conspiracy Theories" I suppose. Myths are definately the correct term and glad you made me re-think that one. Santa, Father Time, and a host of others are good examples of this same types of archetypes rather well hidden w/in the Collective Unconscious and are more real to most of us than we give credit for or I suppose realise most often than not. Hopefully this not being to far out of context of Columbus discovering the Americas. I sometimes get on tangents. I'll let my friend Mr. Kii know he has more posts that he may be curious in researching here.

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I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring this misnomer about. I suppose it all has to do w/the schools of thought we adhere to as to the lies we receive??? Good call!!!

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Nice Elbows!

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@Alrah said

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@AbUldIZ418 said
"U must b quite good w/ a hammer; cause U hit that nail right on the head.. "

I worked for a time as a joiners hand, AB.

You wouldn't believe the amount of men that took it upon themselves to stand around while I was doing a job to see if my elbows had been fixed right.

Once the next man of the house had stood around and I'd QED'd my competance in the trade (stairways, doors, floors, cladding, tiling, etc), then eventually they conveyed some sort of respect as the attonment of their initial doubt and suspicion (and shock at my NOT having dodgy elbows). But it get's tiring when the bloke on the 30'th (60'th, 90'th) job you go to gives you the same ole same ole. growl

It's funny - but I wish you wouldn't be so shocked that I metaphorically hit the nail on the head, as it's something I'm pretty competant at anyway. "

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I'LL say. I really wasn't shocked, actually there wasn't an emoticon that expressed it. Really was trying 2 give you a compliment and was hoping U'd take as such. I totaly respect the power of the Goddess as much as the God; really, wasn't trying to b Macho just giving credit where credit is due is all. So, can I see U'r elbows next time?

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I love old books!!! That was quite interesting. Anyway, as already stated, whereever the reading come from; it was quite acurate Alrah. U must b quite good w/ a hammer; cause U hit that nail right on the head..

Happy Holidays!!!

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@Jim Eshelman said

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@AbUldIZ418 said
"Should the God forms/Angels/whatever one uses as symbol sets for the Quadrants be thought of as outside one's Magick Circle protecting it?"

Often (but not always). Or, alternately, they themselves form the actual perimeter.

"Further, are they also the four parts of the soul projected into the quadrents."

They are certainly symbolic of some sort of projection of aspects of oneself; but your question is so broad that one can't necessarily give a flat answer. Different magicians working different formula for different purposes with different "God forms/Angels/whatever" would warrant different answers.

"The reason I am asking is that if they are one:Protectors, I would want them outside I suppose. If they are to be thought of as two: Parts of the soul projected; I don't think I would wish them to be outside my circle."

The perimeter marking "outside of the circle" or perimeter of one's psyche is formed by part of that psyche - not by something separate or external."

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Thanks Jim. Sorry, U r right in that I made this to broad. Most of the reason that I am asking this this way is that I am seeking new ways of using different Rituals that I havn't really any experience w/and have only tried once or twice, e.g., Liber V Vel Reguli (Very atracted to as it uses Crowley's Unicursal Hexagram ) and maybe Liber XXV, The star Ruby, both of which as I said am not very experienced with. I try and be careful w/how I see Projections; however, I got a bit of advice in a thread we were in before together, that maybe I was a bit to shy about moving on. What are the dangers if any with these and what further advice would you give here? I have a Gigantic pentiant for Egyptian God forms and use them alot. I'm not so hip on Angels to be Honest.

thanks...........

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Should the God forms/Angels/whatever one uses as symbol sets for the Quadrants be thought of as outside one's Magick Circle protecting it? I am asking this as I don't recall reading exact specifics on this. Further, are they also the four parts of the soul projected into the quadrents. The reason I am asking is that if they are one:Protectors, I would want them outside I suppose. If they are to be thought of as two: Parts of the soul projected; I don't think I would wish them to be outside my circle. Obviously I am sure this is an uninitiated question; however, am trying to get this understanding for higher than just the L.B.R.P. I am just feeling some of this in my daily routine and would wish to know if I am on the right track.

thanks........

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@armedwithlunchboxes said

"I also like to recite the opening verses of liber LXV , i find it very usefull for building enthusiasm."

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Sorry hard for me to get to all these threads. But yes this is quite an enchantment.

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Sorry if I made an ass of myself here; however, this was a somewhat of a "Spooky" experience 4 me. W a presence being felt.

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One thing I forgot to mention w/all this is the fact that I had the other sigil I had operated w/the other night stuck into the book I was reading as I had forgoten to properly seal it by traditional standards and hidden away. As previously stated also of the fact that I didn't ever feel the somewhat infernal presence and/or the elemental force ever leave and just forced myself to dismiss the thought from my mind.

1 last thing. The biblio reading was so much on target you wouldn't believe it!!!

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Thanks again Alrah. For reminding me again.

Done.

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@mojorisin44 said

"In my studies I have a great lack of Astrological knowledge - so I wanted to ask a question regarding tonights Lunar Eclipse and how it coincides with the Winter Solistice. Does anyone have any insight, opinions, and/or thoughts regarding the importance of this cosmic event to share? Is there a great significance in the Lunar Eclipse itself? How about how it coincides with this Solistice? Does this spur anyone on to try a new "operation" - ceremonial or otherwise to tap into any Energy outgoing from tonight?

Thanks - and much respect!"

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Pleese se my posts in Magick on Apologie 2 all and nose bleed.

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Yes I totally used this Eclipse for a new start (i.e., Rebirth) and have tottaly been impacted in several different ways. Wont attempt to elaborate on this here but I have been dealing back and forth all night by a severe nose bleed please see my post In Magick under nose bleed and elaborate if you have any thoughts. Thanks.......

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@Alrah said

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@AbUldIZ418 said
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@Alrah said
"It'll be the full moon that made it flow so much. They did studies years ago, and people in hospital that go under the knife bleed more heavily. Most women say they bleed more heavily if their period happens on a full moon too.

I did a bit of bibliomancy for you to try and find the significance:

Grantor: a person who makes a grant of conveyance. Related to Grant 'to bestow or convey, particularly in answer to prayer or request'.

Tried to narrow that down a bit and got Passant: 'a term that applies to an animal which appears to walk'.

If you've been making any 'requests' of certain old gods or entities - perhaps you should check if they are traditionally blood thirsty?"

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That was weird also. I just wrote quoting you here and submitted it and seen it submitted but this is not there. Any way I'll rewrite this? I done a small rite the other night and as my friend said I have a heavy pentiant for Egyption God forms. Any way once done I didn't feel an Elemantal and this presence sufficiantly discharged but went on for a bit and just dismissed this from thought. Anyway I have just finished Duquette's My life w/the Spirits and don't know if you have read or no? As I was finishig the book I had gone to the bathroom to take care of business (this quite embarrising) and had pulled TP off for when finished and had laid it down on the book until done for use. The cover of the book has Goetic sigil of a spirit of what he/Goetia names as Andromalius. I may should have paid a bit more attention I suppose.

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Note that my experience happened during the blood phase of the moon. Care to elaborate further?

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Well - My book indicates Andromalius would probably be more into eggs. It refers to him as a 'Cragsman': 'One who is dexterous in climbing or descending rocks; one who takes sea-fowls or their eggs from crags.

It goes on to tell me that your nose bleeding event is a response to 'a short anthem or versicle chanted at intervals'.

Hope this helps. "

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U will not believe this but this nose bleed has returned severely. I had tried to lay down for the night and picked up Duquette's Chicken QABALAH and started getting a drip in the back of my throaght and got up emediatly to deal w/it it has not stopped now for almost 6 minutes so now I have tried to plug tissue into my nose to hopfully help it clot. I cant believe this is happening. I am definatly experiencing this Eclipse in full force.Please elaborate further if possible.

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@mrkiii said

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@Takamba said
"If I had to apologies for every action or word that left someone feeling uncertain of themselves or for every unintended mistake I made, I'd never have time to accomplish my Will. If will stops and cries "which planet is in retrograde this week?," then will stops and does nothing."

Well, surely, if momentary introspection, personal examination, and reclamation of the consequences of Will be a nuisance, than avoid it, certainly.

If given a momentary mirror of this magnitude? I'm taking advantage. Personally, I need the perspective."

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I tottally agree and felt that apolgie for something done is on your conscious it should be brought forth. When applied to symbols sets of this magnitude as an Eclipse @ the winter solstice not to mention Orion and the fact of this happening @ Galactic center. Tottaly amasing to me anyway.

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@Alrah said

"It'll be the full moon that made it flow so much. They did studies years ago, and people in hospital that go under the knife bleed more heavily. Most women say they bleed more heavily if their period happens on a full moon too.

I did a bit of bibliomancy for you to try and find the significance:

Grantor: a person who makes a grant of conveyance. Related to Grant 'to bestow or convey, particularly in answer to prayer or request'.

Tried to narrow that down a bit and got Passant: 'a term that applies to an animal which appears to walk'.

If you've been making any 'requests' of certain old gods or entities - perhaps you should check if they are traditionally blood thirsty?"

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That was weird also. I just wrote quoting you here and submitted it and seen it submitted but this is not there. Any way I'll rewrite this? I done a small rite the other night and as my friend said I have a heavy pentiant for Egyption God forms. Any way once done I didn't feel an Elemantal and this presence sufficiantly discharged but went on for a bit and just dismissed this from thought. Anyway I have just finished Duquette's My life w/the Spirits and don't know if you have read or no? As I was finishig the book I had gone to the bathroom to take care of business (this quite embarrising) and had pulled TP off for when finished and had laid it down on the book until done for use. The cover of the book has Goetic sigil of a spirit of what he/Goetia names as Andromalius. I may should have paid a bit more attention I suppose.

P.S.
Note that my experience happened during the blood phase of the moon. Care to elaborate further?

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@Alrah said

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@AbUldIZ418 said
"I have watched this total eclipse so far and it has been amazing emotionaly and visualy. I totaly agree."

The Suns up here, so I didn't see it. I'm looking forward to the pictures though. "

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Yeah me 2!!! Anyhow this has been quite a night esp. 4 a Cancer w/Ascendent @ 05' (i.e., degrees) and Sun @ 28' ('' '').

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@Alrah said

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@pharos said
"Man, this eclipse is taking no prisoners. "

Last night was horrible. (I was in considerable pain). It was all very melodramatic imo. Feels Ok this morning though. Quite nice. Very still.

I almost forgot (but not quite) I had a brief vision of a Hawk while I was in bed feeling lousy."

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Sorry to hear you'r misfortune. I have watched this total eclipse so far and it has been amazing emotionaly and visualy. I totaly agree.

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@AvshalomBinyamin said

"If your bleeding large amounts, can't get it stopped in an hour, you feel faint/weak/headache, or it happens repeatedly you need to seek medical attention.

Other than that, I would imagine a harmless physical cause, like dry nasal membrane, anti-clotting or blood thinning meds or supplements, winter cold weather and drying indoor heating, as culprits."

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It has stopped and as stated I was just curious. I have been told could be a sign of High Blood presure.

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I hope this is appropriate to ask here; but I just had a really bisare thing happen and am wondering if someone could tell me if a nose bleed could have any recourse to magickal working. I know people get them every day and somewhat common; however, this is the 1st one I have had in years and only the second in my life and couldn't get it to stop for several minutes w/somewhat mojor flow of blood. Sorry if this seems unapprpriate to ask but am curious?

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