College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

Unfortunately i don't as of yet. I do have the "Black Pearl" and "In the Continuum". I'll look through the Black Pearl and see what I find. Thanks !

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I am totally accepted by God,

Which one? <vbg> - Generally, this strikes me as passive-dependent and probably palliating unresolved parent complexes ("Daddy really does love me, I swear!"). There is great value to be had in this, I think, if you dig deeply and find what, say, acceptance by Nuit really means.
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Hi again. Is there anywhere i can dig deeper about Nuit in accordance with her acceptence? Thanks again!

Thank you for your reply! I've been working on my own version and your comments have been most helpful. I'm only half way through the affirmation, and it has transformed into something more beautiful then I thought it would be.

"Alias55A wrote:
Because of Christ’s redemption,

Getting bought out of slavery (literal meaning, like redeeming a coupon) may not be the best start. You might want to take it in a more affirmative, self- (or at least Self-) originated way, e.g., "Dying daily," or, "As one who is nothing," or... so many things, depending on the level where you're working and what strikes you. "

I like "As one who is No-thing.".

"I am a new creation of infinite worth.

I liked this on first impression. Below Tifereth, it might be close to perfect. However, above that, it perpetuates fictions of the outermost. In particular, it perpetuates judgments that are ultimately arbitrary. The "new creature" I like, though in some situations "new & self-created" might serve better. To get away from the judgment, a compromise might be to characterize yourself as "of pure gold," without attributing any particular value to the gold. (Off the cuff recommendations, remember.)
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How about " Transformed, a new, Creature of Pure Gold, of intimate in worth and might".

"I am deeply loved,

Always a nice affirmation, useful when needed. But it's the passive side. What about, "I deeply love"?"

I like it. I added " Taking my fill of Love of Nuit, In love deeply"

"I am totally accepted by God,

Which one? <vbg> - Generally, this strikes me as passive-dependent and probably palliating unresolved parent complexes ("Daddy really does love me, I swear!"). There is great value to be had in this, I think, if you dig deeply and find what, say, acceptance by Nuit really means."

I read the first chapter of liber AL to try and find what acceptance from nuit might be. I think its either AL v:12-13, 22, 32, or 61. In v.:32 says tells him to "seek me only", and failing it with " by all I can give you, by all I desire of ye all". She clearly states she loves, yearns, and desires her children to come and seek her I think. She is the "Company of heaven", and ultimate mother / begetter of all, so it includes everyone I think. Further, Nuit says she will give one her secret name when one comes to know her, the go further in later verses 50-52, about ordeals of the heirophant, giving all in the center palace (chalice?), unto her, or face the direful judgment of Ra Hoor Khuit. Lastly in v.:61 But to love me is better then all things".

Your comment here stood out more then the rest with this, because I do want to experience that from Nuit. I just think that since she is the continuous consciousness of existence, and the universe that our star beings orbit within, that her love it isn't something new or alien. She didn't just decide at some point in time to offer something to all of us. Its that we've forgotten through incarnations of where we truly came from and once rested in her winb for aeons. I imagine it would be more of a recovered memory (oh!) once forgotten when one comes to know her, or again.

Nuit acceptance of me personally I think, would be experiencing Joy, ecstasy and Love in all I do, since her love, joy, and Ecstacy is in mine also.

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I am completely forgiven,

From what? - This will require you to dig deep into the idea of what you might feel you need to be forgiven for, and what forgiveness would mean. For example, being newly (self- or other-) created, does this leave you free of karmic imbalances (or some particular set of them)? Or is the affirmation more to do with your position in not creating new imbalancing obligations (see the task of the Path of Lamed in One Star in Sight or my M&MAA)? Or something totally different that's not entering my mind as I write? "

I have a few things written down for this one, still need too look deeper into it, as for the meaning to be forgave for such things.

This is as far as I've gotten so far. Thanks again for your helpful input

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Hi guys, as part of a program in where I attend Christ based 12 step classes, I also attend this "Search for Significance" class (also Christ based) where they constantly refer to this My Identity in Christ Affirmation. I haven't found a thelemic version doing a quick google search, though I've found an old thread here where Mr. Eshelman translated the twelve steps for someone that has been an enormous help to me in this program.

I would love and appreciate any ideas and comments to help make it more thelemic.

"My Identity In Christ
Because of Christ’s redemption,
I am a new creation of infinite worth.
I am deeply loved,
I am completely forgiven,
I am fully pleasing,
I am totally accepted by God,
I am absolutely complete in Christ.
When my performance reflects
My true identity in Christ,
That reflection is dynamically unique.
There has never been another person
Like me in the history of mankind,
Nor will there ever be.
God has made me an original,
One of a kind, really somebody!!"

I'm making a new thread instead of raising my old dead thread "Naval Chakra" ( <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="http://www.heruraha.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5085">viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5085</a><!-- l -->) for similar reasons.
I did take your advice Jim but I slacked and only did one meditative session on the Tower back in 2012. The entry I made was "Wednesday, Aug 29th 2012 11:30pm through 11:56 (banishing first ). The following entries I have showed that I went back to my elemental work routine and added chakra cleansing for a while(which helped some but a couple years later I realized I need some therapy because it hasn't ever really went away, but self therapy will have to suffice for now).

Now, in the past year or so this started but some pain spread to my sides (if you trace a line from your belly button to your back sides) and is causing some bad issues with meditation. The only thing that quells it is daily life in a peaceful manner and asana. Ritual's standing up (like LBRP/ MP, thought today was the first time in a while that I didn't feel pain standing up because I was able to stay calm and relaxed all the way through.) sets it off almost like a burning / inflamed feeling. Back in 2012 I did a Betonite clay cleanse for 2 months which didn't help much in regard's to that(before the naval anxiety pains spread to the sides). I've recently had a cat scan of the whole area a couple weeks ago which showed nothing. The pains are triggered by conflicting thoughts, impatience, somebody irritating me, depression and such trivial stupid things that normally wouldn't bother a sane man or woman (from what I've observed).

I don't want to keep running on here so I get to the point of the post. Two nights ago I started meditations on the Tower again, this time with Crowley's card instead of the Tarot of the Elves by Lo Scarabeo. Before I repeated it on the second day I came across my old entry with a similar image / scene I perceived in in the Elf card as well as Crowley's. In 2012 I perceived a monster type thing cut the Hero's arm off (not sure which, didn't record it) in the card and left him to bleed out dry. Also Note that the previous night's dreams were filled with lighting striking everywhere (except striking me ).
In Crowley's card There's one window above the door which is the only one that has bars besides the door bellow and whatever that is to the left. I focused more and imagined / saw myself as a butcher behind that window in a fiery room hammering a dudes left arm that was straightened on a table. I was also the guy on the table .

I didn't use a method in 2012 except gazing at the card and seeing what "pops" out, then running with the images a bit. Now that I gave it some thought, I"m not sure if I'm doing it correctly (Never done it before, and no instructor around). So I used the Major Arcana Tarot meditation on this forum and substituted the purpose and intention, and followed the instructions there. I have more fleshed out notes from the past two nights and tonight but that's too much to cram in this one post.
My question is, is the recent method I used good? Or is their a specific meditation on the card I missed that's designed more for the purpose of letting your subconscious communicate? I appreciate everyone's thoughts / advice / and opinions

I have a quick question. I don't have a Thoth deck, only a Tarot of the Elves by Lo Scarabeo. Could I possibly use this deck with Liber Theta? Or should I wait and get a Thoth deck?

"60 - corpse - still floating and feeling incredibly free but feel a huge 'something' building outside/and inside - like a spiritual realm of ultimate freedom is so close. Generally the realisation of this state of being is enough to throw me back into intellectual ganglia of thought and loose the freeness that allowed me to apprehend this 'other ' in the first place."

Now it doesn't take me that long to get to this part. For me this happens around 20 minutes in my practice with padmasana (Full Lotus). I've been doing it for a few (or couple) months regularly (consistence is virtue I'm trying to attain atm), and I can get past the usual pain, tenseness, shaking ect. about 15 in asana. But recently I'm been able to slip into this state, only for a minute or less then I'm thrown back like you said.

And it's in and out like that. When I reach it, exiting thought will come and oops I'm back again. How do I stop this? Do I think back at the thoughts? Or just go back to thinking of being still?

I've experienced this building of something a few times. Recently a couple days ago when I reached the state of "resting" in my body, I heard, felt, and saw a humming that was was building pressure as the pitch got higher like something was going to explode. Then thoughts rushed in and it faded away. But this doesn't always happen.

Thanks Jim

A more precise question relating, when Apo pantos kakodaimons is used, would it make the negativity/spirits flee? Or force them to back you up? If used as apart of a general banishing of a working space...

A little to the side, but of a different question.

Can this verbal spell be used to clear an area of negative/evil spirits? (I had to asked)
Of someone not of 5=6? Also like the Enochian hekas hekas este bebeloi?

And I feel some difference in the use of (evil spirits depart from here), as apposed to having them (stand) behind you.

"* All the visualizations are to be done in first person? For example visualizing Kether I find myself in third person view, like seeing the whole scene from outside."

I'm not sure I understand the question, but I'll give it a try:

"The "Kether" in question is not the Absolute Abstract Kether, but a sphere of white light a few inches above the crown of your head. Visualize this from within your normal point of view (wherever that is in your body).
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@Jim: Fyi. First person is like playing a FPS games, like COD or Counter Strike, looking through the eyes of the character and only seeing your hands and gun in front of you on the screen. Just like to experimental cameras they are testing on cops in some states. I don't quite understand his question either, so I think he is referring to Third person view, seeing yourself from 10ft overhead behind or in front of you, like most RPG games. Is that a problem? I visualize things in Third person. Would it imply looking at oneself as a stranger? Not comfortable as how one see's them self?

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It's not a discourse about deaths. But ideology. Aleister Crowley was a man of extreme fantasy and dedications, but his works began and finished in his mind and in his life."

Actually, Crowley believed everything IS connected, as when he said something like (don't remember the exact quote) "harming another, is only harming yourself". You have to understand, ones work in life, weather it be what you love to do, job, hobbies, or magick. It just doesn't start and end in your mind, it affects everyone and everything around you. The Universe is composed of vibrations and frequencies all mixing up all the time! You may die, but your work, your legacy, will live on.

"Then, if you want to continue the work of a dead men, you can."

Another point. "Don't contradict yourself". How is it not possible to continue something from a dead man? If you don't understand, read what I wrote above ^. Unless you creating your own cosmological belief system, which is theory is still false, because you would be continuing the idea and work of some guy thousands of years ago who was trying to accomplish the same thing. We are non-less the physical by-product of our Ancestors, especially what we get from our parents. The dead, once decomposed, gives grounds for new life.

Note: Anton Levay was a probationer in the A'.'A'.', like many others, it was and still is a sink or swim thing, that neither Levay or other failed probationers could prove their ability to swim. As for Levay, he left, never made it past that grade and did his own thing, which is perfectly fine. You have bassackwards. Levay took from Crowley! Like many others, even Gerald Gardner.

@BRKHM said

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@MMe said
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I chanting the syllables so:
EH HEH YEE YEH
YOHD HEY VAV HEY EH LOH HI YEE M
YEE AH OH
SHAH DA YEE EH L CHA YEE
AH DOH NAH YEE HA EH REH Z

Right?"

I use to say "YOHD HEY VAU HEY" not "YOHD HEY VAV HEY", but maybe i'm wrong."

Hmm...I Haven't pronounced it as VAU without a short V at the end. But another variation is in one of the Gold Dawn tapes where Israel Regardie is performing the LBRP, and he pronouces them as "Yoh [de] Hey Vav [ve] Hey". 6 syllables, not 4 for that version

Wow, you all pretty much said it. The only thing I have to say is I wish there was "Like" button.

"I find it in the "Middle Pillar" book, but Regardie don't says to do 11 times, I calculate it!
He says only to focusing 5 minutes on each Sephirah.
So I calculate 5minutes = 11 times vibration/chanting."

That is one of my favorite books by him, and I know the method your talking about. I have had some great results with that technique, but I stopped doing it as much to focus on other things, because it is time consuming. But is really great for aura work. After the MP technique, I would do the rotation of the ball of light front to back about 5 times, and the same with left to right, then spiral, then bursting out of the head if I remember correctly.

It's a lot of work with manipulating energy, so I wouldn't give too much time at first or you may experience other uncomfortable side affects. Other variations of the MP by Regardie can be found in another great favorite of mine "The Art of Healing". It's a small book, but very rich. He has an elemental variation, and a universal one if that's what you call it. Plus techniques of using the MP for healing.

That's Crazy! Things are allot smaller and larger then I thought!

Veronica, thank you for the advice and kindness. At the moment im on Vikadon, which is really fealing good. I went and paid $120 to get the bitch yanked this morning, and got a few prescriptions, like strong ibuprofen, vikadon and amoxacilin. After the tooth was pulled, it hurt worse then in the past two weeks, which was one of the worst hours and a half of my life lol. For some reason chewing on bread balls hellped, and then I started sucking around the tooth, which reliefed alot of pain, almost like i was teething lol. So given that I took the chance to stay away from BC powder. I tried the salt water, mabye I put too much salt in it, but it was very painfull and I havent done it sence lol. A detox sounds great, but i dont think my tight budget could afford even $20 at the the moment. Plus I have a couple of other teeth that need worked on too....

@Jim Eshelman said

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@Alias55A said
"Jim, mabye after this book you could right a small one, or really small one, something like "jim's Sidreal for Dummies" or something. "

An astrololgy book is planned, though not on a particular schedule.

The better deal for something QUICK is for me to find a free week to get solunars.org back online."

WOOT! for both! Can't wait Jim.

Jim, mabye after this book you could right a small one, or really small one, something like "jim's Sidreal for Dummies" or something.

Ok, I tried using the hot salt water, as hot as I could stand it, and I couldnt get through the half cup because it caused my tooth to hurt really bad. So before I did, I talked to my sister on the phone and she mentioned chewing on littles rolled up balls of bread in the affected area so the yeast would also draw out bacteria in the affected area. After the salt water, I chewed on bread balls, and it took the edge off greatly and reduced the pain alot. I'm going to do the energy work in a couple minutes, but I thought I would sahre this, for the sake of anyone else haveing these problems in the future.

@Jim Eshelman said

"With the understanding that sound medical attention is actually the safest way to approach this, you might additionally try this:

A simple, practical, physical solution to reducing some infection pockets involves hot salt water. Take a coffee cup about half full of water as hot as you can realistically stand to have in your mouth for 15-30 seconds at a time. Add salt to saturation (that is, until no more will stir in). Rinse your mouth (swishing around like mouthwash, with particular focus on the infected area of the gums) for 15-30 seconds (or until the water in your mouth has cooled), spit, and repeat until the cup is empty. Do twice a day.

On an energy level, using white light is recommended. Rather than bathing the area in white light, see the light as emerging from the center of the affected area and radiating outward. After a round or two of that, you can follow each such session with a different approach: Use red light (as above), both because red is Aries for the head and because it is Shin for "tooth." Use of red light brings the area into right alignment with its right nature. Then, in the same session, switch to pure green light (careful not to slip into yellow-green, which is easy to do), and repeat. Going from the hot red to its cooler optical complement is a technique for reducing inflammation and even some infection. (But don't jump right to the color technique. Use white a couple of rounds first.) - Do this light trick every couple of hours."

Thank you very much, this is the answer I've been looking for