Ok; sorry guys. I misunderstood your posts completely. 
No harm, no foul.
I'd like to make my thesis available for a few people here, to look over and give me some constructive criticism. It will be during the springtime (maybe even summer). That is, if it is alright with you . . .
May you all receive the Peace you deserve,
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@Jim Eshelman said
"And the earth is flat, you know, and if you sail far enough you will fall off the end.
(Just teasing.)"
Is this meant for me? I'm not sure I understand why my post prompted you to see me as a member of the Flat Earth Society.
@Frater LR said
"gah gah... goo goo..."
I don't know what to say to this. I really don't see my position as being childish; in fact, I have over 100 pages of material that helps prove my approach (along with pages and pages of endnotes and a Bibliography).
At any rate, I can take a hint.
I forgot something that I think I should add:
I see Chokmah as Uranus. The Masloth (Starry Heavens) seems to correspond to Uranus more closely than any others.
I see Kether as Neptune: The definition of Kether as the "primordial swirlings" seems to describe Kether much better than Pluto (which is a large rock -- with perhaps ice and iron as part of its make-up.
I see Da'ath as Pluto: The Sephirah that is not a Sephirah is best exemplified as a planet that isn't a planet. Furthermore, in astrology, Pluto is a planet of Transformation, which is best portrayed as the non-Sephirah Da'ath (**Pluto **is very often closely associated with death -- as the non-Sephirah of Da'ath).
I left this out of my previous post; I felt that this information might be helpful in understanding some of my concepts and ideas above.
Peace to all.
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I don't believe that we can go back the "original Tree" and learn anything useful. Was it Malkuth who occupied that position between Chokmah and Binah? Was it Tiphareth? Was it Yesod? I have read convincing arguments for each of these* "original configuations,"* and most of them have few 'salient' points, in the end.
I believe that since we can't really get back to that distant time (whenever it was) we should begin our examination and our exploration of the Tree as it exists for us today. One of my favorite quotes from the Sefer Yetzirah: "There are ten and not nine, ten and not eleven." Making Da'ath a Sephira is not only wrong, it flies in the face of the clear instructions we have for comprehension of the Tree as it is.
As most are aware, the word "da'ath" in Hebrew means "knowledge." Interesting how this sephirah that isn't a sephirah is placed between the two Sephirah of Binah (Understanding) and Chokmah (Wisdom). Is 'Knowledge' somehow the 'bridge' between these two concepts? If we have enough 'Knowledge' will we be able to 'understand' with our 'wisdom' the nature of the Tree, the nature of Man, and the nature of what has happened to creation to place us in this mess -- alienation from one another and from God?
The Sephirah Kether sits atop this Binah - Chokmah combination, and it clearly 'comprehends' the nature of the two (Understanding and Wisdom). Is this what the serpent meant when he told humanity that we'd be like god? That we'd have a 'view' of the Sephirah closest to God? It is clear to most, however, that Da'ath is a poor *'reflection' *of the glory that is Kether. Yes, it is the serpent in Genesis that offers "Knowledge;" but it is not just any 'knowledge' that he is offering, it is the 'knowledge of good and evil.' This seems to me to be a logical outcome for someone who *'Understands' *and has 'Wisdom.' However, Da'ath sees these Sephirah from the bottom; it is Kether that sees them from the top, and in that divine vision, understands the two Sephirah (and their relationships) far more deeply than Da'ath ever can or could.
The serpent is offering the gift of godhood -- perhaps not in this present lifetime, but in those that follow, as the 'knowledge' learned in one incarnation gets *'carried over' into the next. And, as our 'knowledge' continues to grow, not just through the serpent's "gift," *but through our own experienes over several lifetimes, we learn to create a "bridge" -- not a Sephirah (just as Pluto is not a planet), but a "bridge" that enables us to 'close the loop' between "Understanding" and "Wisdom;" and in so doing, we become the gods we were always meant to be.
However, our "Knowledge" will always remain limited as we are seeing the relationship of Understanding and Wisdom from the bottom (from humanity UP). It is only until we are able to somehow unite with Kether that we will see that all our "Knowledge," all our "Understanding," and all our "Wisdom," is as illusion.
These are just my thoughts. I'm eager to hear yours,
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Honestly, this discussion has brought us to a place where I have a few significant ideas about Da'ath that will put a 'brand new spin' on the whole issue. But, I think it might be best if I discuss this one on one with those who are interested (PM me); or, I might consider discussing it in open forum if there is enough interest (it would make for a rather lengthy post, which is one of my hesitations).
Peace Profound to All,
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
I think I've said "hello" in this thread before, but I've made a few changes to my profile and that prompted me to re-introduce myself.
Most of you who know me know me as Neshamah. I've been around for several years now, on OF and OC; and I used to run a forum called Mages of Qabalah. A LOT has changed since then; I've been involved in Magick for over 30 years and have gone through several "makeovers." But, what happened to me from September to December of 2008 forever altered my "perspective" on Magick.
I'd be glad to talk about what occurred in 2008, but this isn't the place. If any are interested, let me know and I'll start a thread somewhere else. Perhaps I'll entitle it,* "Why I Became a Thelemic Rosicrucian."* 
With Peace Profound to all of you.
Crowley believed that he was the reincarnation of Ankh-af-na-khonsu, the Egyptian priest who appears in Liber L (I:14, 36; III:37, 38). He also identified with Eliphas Levi (but I don't have any citings that might help in that regard).
Perhaps the spiritual world is like a 'Pyramid Scheme.' I wonder how many of you are old enough to remember the "Seth Speaks" books, channelled by Jayne Roberts during the late '70's? * 'Seth,'* through Roberts, suggested that all lives were lived at once, in the eternal now. Over our incarnate selves we have a sort of 'supervising Self,' the second-ordefr Self that is aware of all our incarnations (this might be seen as our HGA). Over that *'supervising Self' *was another Self, which administered the Selves of several of these 'supervisors.' And on up the ladder we go until we finally reach the **Ultimate Self **-- G/god, or whatever one wishes to call her/him. This Ultimate Self is over All incarnations through the intermediaries which are all parts of herself/himself, as well.
I don't know how reincarnation works. I only know that it explains a lot of experiences I've had; and it explains a lot of material written on the subject of 'life after death.'
But, I'm always open to new ideas, provided they are well-presented.
With much Peace,
Depending on your level of expertise (in Tarot), you could set up the spread as, "Yes, No, and Result."
You examine the "Yes" card: Is it positve (or negative)? Could you see a 'banquet' opening before you, if this is your "Yes" card? Also, check the number of the card -- Even (yes) or Odd (no). Look up the meanings of the cards in Liber 777 and The Book of Thoth -- is this first card a GOOD "Yes" card?
Using the same procedure, examine the* "No"* card: Is it negative (or positve)? What do you see transpiring if this is your "No" card? Check out the meanings of the card and ask yourself if this is a GOOD "No" card.
Finally, examine the "Results" card in minute detail. If the "Yes" card was more powerful than the "No" card, what "Results" do you see down the road? And, if you believe the "No" card was the more powerful, what does this* "Results"* card mean? What "Results" does a "No" bring into your life?
You can learn a lot about your situation, about the predominant forces at play in your decision, and you can learn a LOT about yourself by doing such a 3-card spread. Sometimes, IMHO, too many cards in a spread can actually give us too much information about the past, present, and / or future, and we are no better off than if we had not consulted the cards at all. Why do many of us turn to the cards in the first place, for a 'simple' yes or no question? Because we have too much information, we are overwhelmed, and we can't see the answer, no matter what. By simplifying the spread, we simplify the amount of information we are 'drawing on' and this makes even the most difficult of questions easier to manage.
Please let me know if I can help you in any way.
With Much Peace,
Don't forget the Xian Cabala (with a C). Athanasius Kircher and Georg von Welling wrote extensively on the Cabala,* et.al*. It had a significant impact on the Qabalah for about 200 years (1590-1790 e.v.).
Wtih much Peace,
I prefer** 3** card spreads -- Past, Present, Future -- Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis -- Condition, Obstacle, Resolution, etc. I have had more success with spreads like these than any other configuration.
With much Peace,
I know this has been asked before, but I can't locate the reference right now.
How does one go about locating a Teacher for** A.'.A.'.** ?
Thanks in advance. 
With much Peace,
Interesting to note, "Abrah" in Hebrew, means Prophet, or Seer.
I think the word (Abrahadabra) is much more complicated and heavy with meaning than you are implying. It adds up to 418 (in both the NAEQ and Illuminati Ciphers); this should be be the beginning of your quest for meaning.
With Much Peace,
LOL !!!
Thank you, King of the Wolves. I agree with your post. After "sleeping on this" last night I decided that I should give Grant a chance to speak for himself.
I am on Chapter 4 of a pdf of Nightside of Eden (that someone kindly gave me) as I write this. All I can say so far is that Mr. Grant has an *unusual *way of expressing himself, and that the way he plays with 'words' in general is unique to say the least.
Ain=Ayin=The Eye=the vagina=the Great Void=the Absence of Light=the True Essence of Light ??????
He makes a few more correspondences, but those are all I can remember without looking back at the text. I'll start a new thread on his book when I finish it -- but give me a couple of days; it is slow going . . .
Thank you for your reply, Jim.
My "project" grew out of my scrying of Nashimiron (I'm a Pisces) and A'abiriron (Libra Ascendant), which I've done several times before (I am 54 years old and have been involved in Ceremonial Magick for over 30 years --- Holy Order of MANS, Theosophy, Rosicrucianism (AMORC), the Golden Dawn, and presently with the Order of the Sons and Daughters of Light --- OSDL). I'm trying to write an account of my own experiences with these "energies," and I thought it might help to read what others had written.
I can understand why Grant's work is "delusional." Since he was attempting to build some sort of Initiatic System out of the Qliphoth (and his so-called "Tunnels of Set") it is easy to see how his Ego grew to cancerous proportions.
Anyway, thanks again for the reply.
Thanks, Jim, for being so candid about Kenneth Grant and his "delusions." I have been trying to get a copy of The Nightside of Eden (for a reasonable price) for some time now, and after speaking with a good friend last week, and reading your post just now, I think I'll give up that quest.
I have been working on a "project" on the Qliphoth for the past couple of months and have devised a couple of rites for that purpose. I want to compare my experiences with others who have done similar workings. For that reason, I am very much interested in finding GOOD books on the subject (if they exist). Do you know of any? Or, perhaps a Liber online?
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. 