College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

Meditating with cannabis, for me at least, is the perfect aid in meditation. Normally I meditate for 30-40 min 2-3 times daily. With cannabis I will meditate for hours. I have found that it allows me to be much more introspective during meditation. Also, just being high alot of intensity will happen to you which you have already talked about. I find that the best thing to do is to stop any thought you have, smile, and enjoy what you can do.

I dont know if any of you are familiar with Timothy Leary and Robert Anton WIlson, 8-fold circuitry of the brain model. If you are, you will know that cannabis activates the 5th circuit (remember the map is not the territory). You can turn this on without cannabis too. I would say that if you can learn to master your mind and direct it easily on cannabis, you should turn on 6 and 7 with mushrooms and lsd. It is MUCH more intense, but once you learn to guide your trip, nothing you will experience using cannabis will compare to what can be experienced on those levels. Although, with those you need much better preparation for the experience.

Edward, you are correct. I have heard it always as the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I like to think the road to hell is paved with hookers and coke. That's why I've never made it to heaven. HAHA I just felt like throwing a joke in, enjoy lol.

Fr. I most definitely agree with the meditation being my magick. I do LBRP and have recently started doing some enochian aethyr work but am still on 30. My "New Years Resolution" was to start with the enochian work and not to find reasons to put it off. I started heavily meditating about 2 yrs ago and would spend approx 4 hours daily in meditation then (now I spend possibly 4 a week (its my fault, but recently I just havn't felt as connected as I used to). During those periods I have experienced states comperable to those you described. For me, I felt as if light was radiating from my crown but could be actively passed throughout my entire body. When this started to occur I would make sure to "consume" my body with the light by consciously moving it around every part of my body. I never opened my eyes but the light seemed to radiate throughout the whole with them closed (From what you described, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about). During this period, I didn't have any kind of tool such as this forum to express what I was experiencing and have any people with similar experiences or knowledge to encourage me. Luckily though, my roomate's girlfriend was a massauge therapist and very knowledgeable in alot of occult matters and she gave me guidance when I was unclear exactly what was happening to me. (In all honesty, I realize that we are all completely connected and that our meeting was in no way luck or mere coincidence, but "divine providence". As is such with all of those things that seem to "find us" just as much as we "find them", this forum included.)

A great book to read is undoing yourself through energized meditation and other devices by Christopher S Hyatt. I'll briefly give you a little runthrough of what he recommends for pre-meditation. Start from the head and work down. For about a minute or so, make lots of faces n stretch every muscle in your face. Open your eyes wide, move them around, open your mouth, move it around, wiggle your nose. Just stretch all the muscles you can in your face. Next for a minute or so hum. AUM will be fine. Next add D's,B's whatever. So you might be like badumdabumbabadum etc. Next 15-20 times breathe 4in,hold9,4out,hold9. Breathe in deep expand your chest then your stomache. Finally, 3-5 times lift your legs 6in off the ground and hold as long as possible. This will give you a good all around stretch and should let you focus more. If you decide to buy the book which I would definitely recommend, it will teach you thought=tension and tension=thought. While your body has tension in it, you will not be able to dispell your thoughts and you will continue to have little things creep in. Don't worry though all the previous posts are absolutely correct, just do it everyday. The quality will continue to get better as long as you put the work in. When I started meditating I would be lucky to get 10 seconds of nonthought in.

Ya when doing different asanas I will definitely get hot, sweat and occasionally have shaken almost uncontrollably. It can feel weird but you can work through it. I forget where I read something talking about asana work and your body going through stages when you do it. The first is heat and sweating. Don't worry everything happening is "supposed" to be.

From my experience I would have to say this is incorrect, but I suppose it depends on what you are doing and how you are doing it. I think that depending on what you are doing you can most definitely mess with your psyche. Remember magick is brain-change willed. If you start doing anything that changes your brain without understanding it, it can have negative effects. I know that I have personally practiced different "systems" of magick for egoic purposes years ago and it definitely had negative effects. I became more obsessed on certain things and would go into little mini obsessive depressions. I didn't realize what I was doing to myself until I started really examining what was going on. I would literally drive myself crazy for small periods of time. I'm not saying that dabbling into anything will always have negative effects, just that when you decide to do anything you should always take the proper precautions. I would recommend before and after doing anything do LBRP. I forget where I read Crowley talking about "light" v "dark" magick, and classifying "light" as anything designed to achieve K n C of HGA, and "dark", everything else. In the end Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law, but realize entering anything with naivety doesn't mean you are absolved from the consquences.

JPF I grew out of the same type of environment and used the same methods. I had eaten LSD often and always enjoyed it, but once I started to truly realize the potential for change, it was absolutely indescribable. I would eat at least 5 hits twice a week and during the trip would spend approx 4 hours meditating. Without that tool I know I would probably be nowhere near the state of mind I am in normally now. I eat LSD about 4 times a year now, mostly during celebration or when I am feeling in a funk and need to get a better perspective on the situation. I wouldn't recommend doing that to people who don't have extensive experience with psychadelics owing to the fact that whatever is bothering you will smack you in the face. I find that when I have some kind of issue I'm trying to work out, tripping makes me innitially get very uncomfortable, but during the process I transform and come out of it much more positive. It's kind of like going through hell to get to heaven.

I definitely have in the past and still do get lots of criticism from my family for not wanting to stay dogmatically catholic. It can definitely be difficult to endure the conversations which inevitably lead to, "you need to go to church", but it truly doesn't bother me. In all honesty I feel sorry for people trapped in that state of existence, but I know it's all just programming. Most of our believes about everything were formed when we were children and everything continues to build upon them unless they are examined later. At such a young age our mind is not able to reason and we have to find a way to cope and exist in our environment. All of our fears and the reasons for our cyclic existences stem from believes we developed before we realized we were able to develop believes. Because of this, we should all show ourselves the same love and understanding we were afford a 5 year old. I remember years ago when I started reprogramming myself and truly understanding myself, I would see events I didn't remember from my childhood. From there I would see how that affected me in another situation a year or so later. This chain would continue and I could easily view the entire chain which would lead to different believes and actions that I had at the present. Just seeing the chain made it able to be broken. LSD and many hours of meditation and self examination seem to be an incredible way to de/reprogram. If you don't have alot of experience with it though, remember fear is failure and to love yourself. For me at least, alot of my memories were painful, yet didn't bother me because I was able to detach and view the events as an outsider. I could see others driving themselves into some real depressed states though. We don't supress memories because we enjoyed them lol

For all the psychadelic warriors or future psychadelic warriors, good luck and remember, YOU ARE IN CONTROL. If anythings get too intense take a deep breathe and think of something that makes you happy. Also, if you are brave enough let your mind run wherever it goes. Sometimes the darkest states of our mind can be the most illuminating.

lol no doubt me too I was sick that day and watched history channel almost the entire day

I staved off laugher until this and then cracked up.

"14. There once was a Goddess, Nuit,
Who dated a God named Hadit.
When Ankh-af-na-khonsu
Saw what they were up to
He shouted "Hail Ra-hoor-khuit!""

Arsihsis you watched the history channel 2 or 3 days ago on the bible codes didn't you?

I have enjoyed this discusion greatly. I think a good explaination would be to categorize synchronicities as a tangled hierachy. I believe looking at pure cause and effect present a duality which is not inherently present in the situation. Do the synchronicities happen because of the magick, or did the magick happen because of the synchronicities...OR are they both intrinsically linked and to seperate would only serve to dilute the true beauty which is the experience of both.

As for the is it within or is it without debate, I would have to say that like Schroedinger's cat it lies in a state trancendent of both until you make the decision to view it as an event happening outside of you or inside of you. Let me explain this more because I know I am using this example kind of loosely for the situation and do not want to have a discussion on how I have misused it. Perhaps I have, but here. Every event you have experienced in this life that feels "outside" of yourself is going on outside of yourself and inside of yourself. Your nervous system is sending information to your brain which is being decoded and pushed into consciousness through the view of your own paradigm. So as you see while a wave may be crashing into your body "outside" you, all the perceptions of the wave are "inside" of you, yet both are intrinsically linked. To seperate is to fracture.

Also I think it was this post that talked about hallucinogens, possibly not but I feel like this is some cool knowledge. Our brains get millions of bits of information constantly, yet our consciousness can only handle 200 bits of information at a time. Owing to this fact, we connect the data we receive to concepts and schemas in our mind. Because of this, the vast majority of the sensory information we receive we don't truly perceive. I mean that if you have seen your computer monitor 10,000 times, the 10,001 you don't see it, you see the idea you have of it based on how your mind connects it to the concept you have of it. Now here comes the fun part. When you take LSD, and I'm going to go out on a very thick limb and say this is true of most hallucinogens, the part of your brain that connects your perceptions to your schemas doesn't really. What happens, is that you TRULY see. That is what gives everything it's novelty when on LSD, because to your mind you are experiencing everything for the first time and not continually relating it to your ideas of what your are experiencing.

@Student Aleph 9 2 said

"Do what thou Wilt shall be the whole of the Law

While I have been given marvelous and exalted tasks by the Creator also Am I but a Neophyte, an innocent and helpless Harpocrates Babe in an Egg, and I have much to learn. Having been raised Christian it is difficult for Me at times to accept the Greatness in His Holy Name Satan without fear of eternal fire. He has reached out to Me on so many occassions yet have I spurned Him in My childish folly. This is My labor, and mine alone, but here is what He has revealed unto Me concerning His Nature. In One Satan is the Throne upon which the King rules, Not an Adversary, but a Challenger, the consciousness of the processes of growth and evolution toward success. To fear Him is repression of the Seed by the Soil, the fear of Growth, but it is that fear which once overcome unites Us with His enduring Grace. Now know that when We break through the soil of our insecurity and emerge into the Light, Satan's Name changeth to that of Lucifer. No longer is He the Challenger, but the Bringer of Truth and Light, a Living and complete soul free from the Restrictions of the Struggle Based Genesis. A far as Christians are concerned, it is up to each Aspirant to engage in such Revelation. The Work of Satan is best defined by the Beast 666's Wonderful Poem called: "Crowley "Aha". My struggle with Satan is a struggle with Myself. He has given Me two forms of My bicameral mind, which also are Archetypes of the Nature of My Work. I was foolish and smoked cigarettes, pushing down My Life, supressing My vitality, accosting the force of My Vigor. He has delivered Me from this, but the Great and Supreme God of All Creation Will not in any way force His Child to do that which is best for Him. Therefore surrender all ye have unto Satan and ignore those whom present their folly that He is Evil. They are blind, they are starseeds, they are slaves to their own futile whims, they have potential but deny it. In this I Am Hypocrite, We must be what We are not before We can be what We are.

Love is the Law, Love under Will."

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I loved the entire post and in many ways feel the same exact way. I grew up catholic and went to catholic schools the vast majority of my childhood and teenage years. The initial breaking of those chains may be one of the most beautiful things to have transpired in my life.

I also enjoy telling christians "May Lucifer free you from your bondage." I find it humourous that they in no way understand what I am talking about and they tend to become fearful or try to convince me to become that way.

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Personally, I believe in having as many orgasms as possible, yet only achieving orgasm for a purpose. You can learn to have sex and masturbate w/out achieving orgasms. You can keep this process going for an indefinite amount of time. Basically, if you are going to orgasm, direct it towards some purpose, it is extremely powerful. If you want to have sex or masturbate, after "delaying" the orgasm a couple of times, you will have achieved all of the pleasure you desire and most times an orgasm is unnecessary. When you do orgasm though, try to have a real purpose for it. You can use that energy to your "advantage".

This post was brought about by reading the post from drunken maria regarding her experience. I figured I would post an experience that just happened to me and through expressing it receive possible interpretations.

This experience in a way parallels an experience I had about 1yr n 1/2 ago which made me start studying spiritual texts and magical practices since. The experience I had occurred precisely one week ago. I had been preparing for this event for some time and was just awaiting the time to enact it. I ingested about 1/8 oz of mushrooms. (For me, a difficult tasks but to go into the reasons would take too long...mainly I was around them for a long period of time and the smell now bothers me.) After I started to feel the effects, smoked a reasonable amount of marijuana. Next under the effects of both psychedelics commenced a masturbation session of approx 1 hr n 1/2. (I have almost mastered orgasm control and longer session=much better results I have found) Also, as a bit of background info I occasionally incorporate masturbation into meditative and magical practices if a female is not around. Now to the original story. Upon completion, I layed upon my bed and began some meditation. After a short amount of time I started perceiving thing in terms of chess squares. (I have recently been spending several hours a day attempting to master this game) I felt as if I was a white square and my ego a black square in the board of my mind. Next everything disappeared and I was communicating with "another" white square. It was informing me how it understood the difficulty of living with the black square (ego). It informed me of the necessity of each and that I could control the black to promote the white if that makes sense to anyone here. Now to explain the "other" white square. I immediately understood it as me, but not me at all. Like it felt as if I was talking to myself but not to myself. How I understood it was me, but everyone else too or something along those lines. I understood it to be there in everyone but forgotten. Upon this I started laughing, realizing that everyone just forgot. Then I felt some sadness at the fact "EVERYONE FORGOT!". I then become a pre-human monkeyish creature running from a cheetah and climbed a tree where I say another pre-human monkeyish creature. From this the "white square" explained that in every civilization people had come to this "oneness" understanding and tried to leave behind clue. These then got turned into religions. I should also mention earlier that day my cousin had tried to convince me to go to a fundamentalist baptist church which I politely declined but had been very aggravated that knowing how I feel in regards to such matters he still insists on attempting to get me to attend. The white square explained how the clues were there staring people in the face even if they didn't understand them. Upon this I lost all anger at my cousin and understood that instead of feeling anger it was my responsibility to find every clue and to present it to anyone who cared to listen. Since I understood the "clues" were everywhere in everything it made sense that to me that everyone could understand if the clues to their particular believe were just pointed out. I should also mention that the "black square" was nowhere to be found from the onset of the conversation, but was talked about as being far away. Upon understanding there were clues everywhere to get back to there, the whole square dynamic kind of faded and I could hear the "black square" voice in my head again. ie. egoic thought.

Since that experience I have had what seems to me as a radical shift in thinking. Previous to this experience I had been in a very negative place and feeling almost constant anger and resentment at many different things. I also would play more power/territorial games and thought it was more fun to manipulate people into doing things I could easily do, just for the fact that I would not have to do them and prove superiority by coercing other into doing them. Since then I for the first time in a very long time am truly happy and optimistic about the condition of humanity. I have started viewing every action as a way to improve upon humanity and realized that if I do everything with love, it can "rub off" and grow exponentially. After that I made a "pact" with myself that if anyone requires my help and asks I will give it w/o question. I have been doing that, and instead of the normal pissed off at having to do something demeanor I have grown accustomed too, I have been truly happy knowing that I am helping another person. I should also mention, that like maria's post which sparked this post, I have been living in a sort of isolation and hadn't REALLY left my house in 1-2 weeks before that experience. (I would leave to play softball and get groceries)

Well there is my experience, I will leave it to you to understand owing to the fact that I do not completely understand it. What I do understand is that it seems as if all the anger I had been feeling has been transformed into happiness. I had a similar experience to this before w/similar results, but after not continuing the work truly for about 9 months, I regressed into my previous state of mind. I plan on not doing that this time.

Yes LSD causes more connection of sensory neurons which enables you to See sounds etc. I am in college now studying psychology and upon completion of the study I would like to do work in exactly that area. Brain scans while in mystical states etc. to find exactly how you brain is functioning in these states. Also, I would then recommend pharmacological research to try to find a more direct way of achieving these states so that they can be introduced to the whole of humanity easily.

I haven't read the entire discussion here, but on the subject of quantum mechanics, and microcosm to macrocosm relationships, I would highly recommend reading "The Self Aware Universe" by Dr. Amit Goswami. His proposal is that consciousness is the foundation of the material world. In the book he attempts to reconcile quantum physics, Buddhism, and Hinduism. Once one studies quantum physics, it becomes obvious one can throw away objectivity immediately. The electron is perfect. Neither particle or wave, yet both and above both. (Kind of like the movie underworld ) In essence what I am saying is that just like choosing to view the electron as either particle or wave, you can choose to view yourself as microcosm or macrocosm, or attempt to transcend above both, becoming what the electron is, what you already are.

*Have any of you viewed some of the different galaxies from the Hubble telescope? There are some that look identical to the DNA double helix. Granted the colors are based on different elements, but the structure is nearly identical which is more of the so below, so above.-reason 4 edit.

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Really lux? I live near Pittsburgh and have never come across another thelemite. It's also discouraging that the closest OTO lodge is in Reading. If people are getting together in Pittsburgh, I would love to join in.

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