College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

Hey thx Everyone for your advices,but in fact to say you the thruth my theorics knowledge come from a bit of Regardie,Fortune,Matthers,Bradon,Donald Kraig,Chic and Tabatha Cicero,SAW,{and of course Mr. Crowley}but now i cant say Him is my favorite or Him but when it comes to practice i'm liltte confused where to next two steps are?

ANd thank you Thelemic Mage i just download the full 1st volume of Crowley's work,but i have so much reading to do,why i much choose Him instead of Him?

And thank you too Skia ,but actually donald Kraig don't blind me at all,he's for me the best synthesis about Western Tradition Mysterias,if you know a better one,even if i dont like the word better,don't hesitate.

Really appreciate

FrankofTzion

@ThelemicMage said

"You know what's convenient.. if you have a hideaway at work like that, maybe on a roof or something, you can do your banishings/invokings right after Liber Resh. I find meditation and banishings convenient as well as very effective after adoring the Sun at the appropriate time of day."

Thank you for your advice,but as i become familiar with the LBRP,in fact i only know this ritual,i'd like for sure to learn new stuff but i just dont know what could be the next steps.In my process wich i learn from Donald Kraig,he too recommend to practice it for at least 2 months i guess before doing the Elements invocation,so thx all for your advice but after only one month of daily LBRP am i at a point that i can incorporate others ritual's works?

@Jim Eshelman said

"Turning off the engine of your car doesn't undo the fact that you've travelled to your destination.

No, it doesn't undo the spell. The invoking would be part of putting YOU in the right space to pull off the magick. The banishing returns you to your workaday world."

Thank you Jim,its clearly explain this way,i'm asking this question because i see somebody was interrogate himself with the same quizz so i search a precise answer,really appreciate.

@ThelemicMage said

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You could banish with the pentagram in the morning, then invoke the element you are most suited to right afterward.
Another suggestion, you could banish first in the morning, then use a hexagram invoking ritual less specific to "attention-distracting" elements and more in line with the day-to-day current of the planets of the hexagram. You could also invoke your specific element, (for instance, mine is Fire,) or you could try to invoke all of them through the hexagram in the appropriate quarters.

Well thank you but thats a litle advance for me,i'm still new with the LBRP,in fact a month of practice,while some recommend 2-6 months of daily banishing ritual,i asked this question because i expect to make a spell and i wasnot sure about the banishing functionning, thank you thats the next step i'm about to study.

"That would be the formula of a particular ritual, but not necessarily so for a "general magical hygiene" use of the generic rituals."

What does it means exactely,because i'm still a pre-neophite,i've been doing the LBRP for 3 weeks now,and the Middle Pillar ritual for 4 days.

But now i would like to attract that girl,{my particular ritual}so i expected to do a Wiccan ritual after the LBRP,so the steps i plan to make are thoses ones:

-QC
-LBRP
-QC
-Casting a circle
-Calling the four Watchtowers{as in the Wiccan tradition}but not the Archangels as i already did in the LBRP
-{My precious ritual}
-Recognition to the Watchtowers
-Closing the circle

Now the burning question is if i do another LBRP,later,like you said,Thx,does it will banish some of the good Energy i invoque too or does it will only affect the undesirable vibrations i may have invited?

Thanx a lot for your time Jim

FrankofTzion

I've been following the whole discussion from the start but something's still obscur.

From my point of view if i invoke i need to banish after right?If no then i surely miss the purpose of doing the LIRP{gen. i mean}In the need of doing a Wiccan ritual after the invoking Pentagram,like an "you must belong to me" spell, if yes then does the steps will looks like these?

-Quabalistic Cross
-LIRP
_Quabalistic Cross once again

And after what could be the other parts till i concoct my mix?And most important i don't want to make the LBRP after to disperse all the energies i invoke or it just does'nt matter?

Any help would be highly appreciate

Ps my Avatar's coming

Thx FrankofTzion