College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

If you accept that what Crowley claimed the experience to be, that such other worlds and unverified and infact counter factual things exist. Then why not accept David Ike's assertion than Crowley was actually an unwilling pawn being lied to by aliens reptiles linked to the dog star, and that he was bred for the purpose via cross-mating as a manchuran candidate used to create a psychic army against the grey aliens and others races or trans-dimensional aliens using modern day "prophets" to secure their power source in the pyramid of Atlantis.

If you accept some utter bullshit, you should be equally open to ALL utter bullshit.

Seeing as there are no such things as transcendent beings, you can not count them as authors of anything.

Crowley had some sort of mental phenomena, hallucination or dream, or dissociative episode.

Everything in the book of the law, is foreshadowed in his earlier works, that one can have brain episodes than improve creativity and produce strange ways of thinking that shock even yourself is not a new concept, and is well documented, proven, and the causal mechanisms explained.

That a long dead Egyptian priest could in some way transcend death and space time, concentrate his existence into a shadowy figure, and beam his thoughts into a man who will not even be born for centuries, in order to communicate a message on behalf of beings some how conscious though not consistent of any material nor localised in space time, such that a single man, who happens to be drug addict in a self admitted semi-delusional state (Possibly related to health issues.) Has no grounded in any sort of sensible science or fact, has never been observed to happen in a controlled situation, and has no evidence of any conceivable mechanism by which it could even be possible.

So despite Crowely's delusions as to the nature of his experience, we have no reason to accept that his subjective account is accurate. "A casual stroll through the insane asylum is proof that faith does not justify truth"

The author is This man Edward Alexander Crowley.

Authorship is not dependent on real or feigned dissociative identity disorder, no matter what mystical or literary purposes this device has been employed for.

Aiwass in no more the author of the book of the law, than the Persian prophet Zarathustra is the author of Thus spoke Zarathustra, or the blind film critic "Zampano" in the author of any part of "House of leaves" or aliens from Serius B are the authors of Cosmic Trigger, God in the author of the bible, or Harvey the Pucca directed the movie Harvey.

youtube videos couod be better, if thelema was presented properly as science and not as variations on the "law of attracrion" and leftist socialism.

Maybe Keith418 and John crow could give a clear exposition on what Thelema is, reviving their work from Thelema coast to coast.

Also a statement from Erwin Hessel woukd be very productive.

this is like I have said, that the lose of noble elites allowed the money powers to take over control. The problem is that governments are basically bribed by the money powers, the sanctions hurt the competition of the big business and we run wars all over the world to open markets for big business and to secure poverty conditions in places to outsource labor, the government is supported by and works for the big businesses.

What we need is to restore the aristocratic class and the monarchy, which has power and authority without dependancy on money and big business. a power that comes for their character virtues and noble disposition, and ability to prove their skills and ideals work in practice, not based on popularity contests of democracy nor on the ability to pander to the big businesses. Men of genius and vision who do not give in to what the masses want but guide them with a form hand to what they need to grow and prosper as a community.

These are the Tory ideals which Crowley was a life long supporter.

I was not off topic, I explained how we are to know what the concepts of the new aeon are, and what the basic idea is and how we are to apply those to our own lives.

That is what the poster was wanting to know. That is what I explained, also I didn't paste any quotes from anything.

I see several posts here that are off topic, and not deleted or warned. My post was very much on topic.

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When our eyes look at the world, all we get are a series of 2D flat images.
Our brain mixes the two images of the eyes and constructs a 3D virtual model from those cross cuts. So we see a kind of mental construct of the room around us, but we do not get every single possible 2D slice from every angle at one time, only the view from where our eyes are located in relation to the rest of the room. Thus some one else in the very same room, has a different mental consctrution of the room. We also combine the different constructs from memory as we move about the room, to create a not immediately seen construct of the room, but a inner combination of many diffent perspective angels, into a single room. But these are all mental constructs, all we ever actually see are various 2D slices.

But the room exists independent our our seeing it, it is really 3D and it's real 3D space transcends all of our constructs based on 2D images. Thus malkuth is out virtues models but the real reality of the Supernals is the actual real physical room, that transcends all individual constructed models of the room.

The room is not in your mind, the mental construction build out of 2D slices is in your mind. As is everything you ever directly experience or know about anything, is actually a virtual construction put together from cross cuts and limited input filtered through your sense organs and brain that makes this constructs.

But beyond those constructs is the real physical room, with physical matterial objects, which are only hinted at and distorted as the brain tries to model them from limited sense data. The brain is itself a physical object, that is part of that room, part of the whole universe of reality that exists outside if the mental constructs. Your idea about a brain, is a mental construct that refers to but is not the brain itself.

Reality is physical and it is analogous to what we see and touch and experience, only our experiences are constructions which are subject to flaws, since they use limited data and fill in the blanks between cross sections of sense data, also the physical reality includes elements that our sense organs do not pick up. (no that does not mean angels, ghosts, and astral planes, those are things that your brain creates to model experiences and events that come from unusual sense perceptions, that the brain doesn't quite know what to do with, but also does not ignore, misperceptions and cognitive glitches) Reality does contain light wavelengths we can't see, sounds we can't hear, organisms too small to see, etc.

reality is not a construct of your mind, but your personal perspective is a construction of the brain tying to gather loose cross cuts of limited sensory data. So in a sense everyday phenomena are illusions just as much as the effects of rituals are illusions. Only the models we use everyday are tested constantly refined to fit the real world, while seeing an angel in a dark mirror, is the result of an ambiguous sense data, fleeting in nature, causing the brain to construct some explanation and project it into the model of the world around you, as a best fit for some bit of inadequately perceived data. And the communication with such spirits is a communication between parts of the brains processes working on assumptions and trying to build a coherent explanation and rationalization of the strange sensory data, processed through an unusual trance state of cognition.

Crowley says as much in "the initiated understanding of ceremonial magic"

It is very clear that mind is matter, amd matter is not mind.

Idealist ontology is absurd.

Here is a list of black brothers.

The Phelps family, these so called Baptists are a nest of vipers, full of hatred of life. A black lodge to rival that of Douglas in Moonchild.

Michele Bachmann: the republican candidate who is not only anti gay marriage, but on a puritanical crusade against sex in all forms, even banning all forms of pornography.

Barak Obama: whose crusade for liberalism and entitlement is about to plunge the whole world into bankruptcy.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

The evidence for angels is ummm nothing. So we are not justified to believe in them.

Now the sort of evidence we need are some video tape may help, a large siting.

Fossils, some wing feathers, a nest, a bit of angel DNA. Etc.

There are no such things as angels, so if I see one, it is an hallucination, or a trick, or a dream.

In the experiment the card game had cards that were marked by beng from slightly different decks.

In the liber E practice if you keep it up for along time, your tarot cards will start to wear out, you will end up with little marks, tears, bends, etc that you may cue into but not be aware that you cue into them.

Also this practice has another aspect to it from that book. And it is that if you guess wrong, you are supposed to justify why you guessed wrong, maybe you guess the 5 of swords but the Hermit comes up and you say, oh well the book of thoth references Nietzsche on the 5 of swords and the hermit is analogous to nietzsches mad man who declares God is dead. And so on, you learn to rationalize your misses, and this both works to train yourself for conformation biased ways of thinking, such that you later have a mind primed to fool itself to accept shoddy evidence as proof of the super natural. And this practice also helps buid a memorization of the Kabbalah spheres and paths, and an active working with them on the fly. It sort of works like a full emersion technique of learning the language of Kabbalah.

And for those savvy enough to realize this practice is playing on and even strengthening confirmation bias types of cognitive thinking, one can learn to deconstruct those tendencies, and learn to be aware of the types of links between ideas that one used to justify amd rationalize experiences to fit ones biases, and then work to be aware of and decondition oneself to not allow this biases to interfere with logically valid interpretations of data sets.

That is the true purpose of those practices, but the unwary and easily misguided student takes them at their literal expression, and actually rather than improving upon their mental acuity strengths self deceptive and fallacious mental processes.

Our unconscious mind picks up on patterns and subtle cues faster than out conscious mind can "put our finger on it"

There is a test where they show peoples heart rates increase before they take negative cards in a rigged card game, long before they are consciously aware of the deck being stacked. They unconscious mind picks up on the subtle differences in the deck design, before conscious awareness. Those people who were more Tuned into being aware of their heart rates, picked up on the way the game was rigged sooner than those with less awareness of heart rate.

The bodily stress state changes in many subtle ways, and the more aware of that we are, via practice and biofeedback back exercised like those in Liber E the better we are at realizing and acting on hunches that have not yet verbalized themselves in our conscious mind.

This explains "clairvoyance" in a perfectly physical way, no need to postulate unconfirmed forces, sprite, energies, etc.

And it shows a physical scientific benefit to those practices of magick like as those in liber E.

There may be other subtle unconscious physiology and such that the conscious mind might interpret as past life memory, giving one an edge in some way. Which justifies liber Thisarb.

Most often Crowley meant by he is the reincarnation of such and such, that the person's writings and works were a strong influence in him and he was continuing their work.

In the same way we might say Einstein was the reincarnation of newton.

I leave the auto correct on, because I mistype as it is, this keyboard miss keys, I don't know how to spell some words, and I can't use a back arrow to fix words, trying to put the cursed where I want in iPad, makes me want to pull my hair out. So its easier to just deal with the autocorrect.

When I get my Linux system back, you can expect my normal level of mistyping due only to a neurological mapping mix up between my fingers and thoughts.

No scientists publish what they did and their actual data form instruments.

And if you question it, you can look at the set up and method and see where some variable might have allowed some other explanation, and you can redo the experiment, accounting for that variable.

Science is not opinion in any way. It collects objective data.

I do not understand why you dint understand you did not exist before you were born, will stop existing when you die, your Brian is a computer that created a virtual representation of the world relative to the effects of physical events son your body, your body is made of the physical stuff you eat and nothing else. Before you where born, you were the planes and meat your mother ate, that her body shaped into you like a potter shapes clay.

When the pot breaks is returns to the earth, when your body breaks it returns to the soil.

And there is no other world, inside your jar of a head is brain goo, that like computer Chips reacts in complex ways to inputs and produces outputs in body movements.

That is reality, the virtual mind is colors, shapes, smells, tastes, thoughts, feelings, etc are just stimulaions of parts of the Brain.

The virtual mind, the so called inner world is all false, illusion, lies, symbols. The computer is your brain the video game is just software, busing of electricity In the chips, and the virtual world is really just colored dots on the tv screen. Like wise astral planes are just colored dots in the brain.

What part of you must always deny your own experience and accept Only data of science ant nothing else, do you not understand.

That no matter what your experiences are expressions of the physical brain. The stronger your brain demands that certainty the stronger you must doubt it. always deny yourself before data.

Any experience I have had either has a natural, physical cause, or I just don't know what that natural physical cause is, and so I don't as yet have an explanation.

That is what science is, either you know the physical cause backed by data, or you suspend all belief about it until you find a physical hypothesis that is subject to test, and either test it, or hold it up to professional evidence from other experiments.

You do not concoct some half baked idiotic spiritual nonsense to rationalize that experience.

How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg?  Four.  Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg.  ~Abraham Lincoln

There is an objective reality out there, but we view it through the spectacles of our beliefs, attitudes, and values.  ~David G. Myers, Social Psychology

Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion.  ~Democritus

To treat your facts with imagination is one thing, but to imagine your facts is another.  ~John Burroughs

Listening to both sides of a story will convince you that there is more to a story than both sides.  ~Frank Tyger

All the mind's activity is easy if it is not subjected to reality.  ~Marcel Proust

The human understanding is like a false mirror, which, receiving rays irregularly, distorts and discolors the nature of things by mingling its own nature with it.  ~Francis Bacon

How reluctantly the mind consents to reality!  ~Norman Douglas

I believe in a real, physical world.  I figure if the world existed only in my mind, it would pay more attention to me.  ~Robert Brault

There is only one reality

No my reality and your reality. And things that are true are true with ot without me, were true before I existed and will be true when I am long gone.

Things that are mot true, were are and will always not be true.

What you or I or anyone believes, is irrelevant to truth.

If your not seeking to convinse then your just talking total shit.

there is no reason tom say that something is true, if yu can't prove it. You are just speaking nonsense and you expect that it's true just because you say so.

I'd you care that its true or not, you would subject it to tests. If you just want to assert bullshit you know ain't so, why bother?

Outer space is very tiny
Ants are made of cheese
I have wooden teeth.
France was founded by moon men.

See I can assert nonsense too. But it is of no significance. Unless I go about demanding that it's true.
In which case I better have some Hard evidence.