I would suggest changing it slightly. Why inhale-up the inhale down in the same 10 second.
When I was doing this daily, I would prefer to stick to the one energy flow for say 10 mins- then change.
Meanwhile stick to active chakra work with this prana work.
OH and through an LBR before and after will help in several ways.
I think the man clearly had the real visions. However, he could not deal with it very well.
I think it is very frightening at first- but then you get immunne.
I also feel, that as a writer, he dramatized things, he made them impressive to the reader.
I can personally relate to many of his visions. But on the other hand his reaction to such energies(memories) is over rated. His understanding of some of these principles, is shallow.
I never wish to put the good man down, do'nt get me wrong. He is most helpful to anyone who has these visions, visions that lie deep in the subconscious. So subtle, yet so frightening, they lie within, yet they are without.
I/we have much to thank to the man.
I once had a vision of all the sephiroth and paths- the paths where all like rivers of energy and the whole tree was alive.
Couldn't it simply be a person who is false and pretensious? Or a person who misleads you in some way- plays games.
Plenty of practice
How about following your intuition- that will be the first thing you will notice when you evoke. You should notice a new energy through your intuition.
Learn to trust it, let it guide you.
Also, with practice you should, in time, work out what works for you- what turns the magickal wheels for you.
Tercotta and Fuge'?
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A magickain used a reasonably typical tantric/AC technique to evoke an energy of significant depth. As always should be various alignments where made- (or where they?)
Something wasn't right, just was not right. The lower fluids of the epididymis where drawn up (as should be), but the red lion was not full as blood flow was limited.
As the red lion roared a coat hanger flu off the door causing a disturbing crash and a failure of operation. Didn't get the feeling it was an entity per se'(in the typical sense)- but more energy misguided- an incomplete circuit- a circle broken.
Didn't realize how the surrounding atmosphere was so affected by such workings. The force was considerable.
Keeping in mind the need for a careful choice of words. Has anyone got any ideas?
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"Before winter I easily got to a state of just "awareness without form" where it felt like I was just a floating conscioussness in a larger whole but lately I have been having trouble getting there again"
Brother, There is something I have noticed with regards to spiritual experiences.
the first time has the most impact- you get used to it and the next and next just seem normal.
Shamanti- you are doing very well just recognizing these things- many do not.
'It felt like a very hot "steam" was being released from the base of the spine that continued upwards and when it reached the brain it literally felt like I had a "brain-orgasm" that extended to my whole body. All the time it felt like the top of my head was "opened up" and energy was pouring out upwards while I felt a pressure/tingling between my eyebrows. '
Yes, I to can remember this. It is important to learn and practice regular the Middle Pillar ritual. This will help ground you. I too have had several expereinces where I felt my nervous system was over loaded, burnt out, I once was unconscious for a time. I too have had this feeling of the need to 'land'- i went to woolworths and did shopping.
I hope you are keeping a diary.
Yes sure Yogi Bhajan is a quack. You see, i ask you that question so you would notice something. That is that he does not promote the importance of 'enlightenment' well not at first glance anyhow. This means that he has not had the 'vision of sorrow' and most likely, most not achieved enlightenment. So following him would be like the blind leading the blind wouldn't it? A progressive magickain would use him up and move along. Otherwise it is a religion.
I suggest you read up on Chakras, activation of them, more reading of Kundalini, concentration and visualization exercised (daily), WORK WITH PRANA-LOTS.
Let me clear a few things up. An enlightened person still feel anger etc We all feel that. However, eventually he does learn to see through it- to deal with it, to control it. Enlightened people sill have personal issues( i feel society has a myth of them) HOWEVER, THEY DO DEAL WITH THEM MORE EFFECTIVELY.
I think this idea of 'raising the Kundalini' to achieve enlightenment is BS. It is the other way around. Enlightenment is achieved through dam hard work, through introspection and circumspection. By looking deep into your self and sorting out the mess, psychoanalysis. The raising of the Kundalini will follow- of course with a little help from you.
The sexual fluids practice will come later(IMO). Perhaps Bhajan is just talking it to attract people. However, by all means work with it if you wish. I think you will find that exploring your own sexuality is the core of it. An initiate will not truly understand what the orgasm can do, IMO that is for those who have crossed. Go ahead experiment.
If I where you I would be looking at GD and OTO. They offer a more complete system that this initiate Bhajan(probationer- Black Brother?) and you know dam well that both systems where developed by those who have done it.
Keep up the good work and message me with any questions.
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Excellent quote Simon love it
Who says you should rigorously stay to the one system?
From the sounds of it to me- you are doing alright mate. Keep up the work.
Yes you may do it in your own way- it is NOT a religion. Use your own intuition to guide you- as it sounds like you are doing. Take lessons from both teachers and practice both- cut your own way through the jungle.
Just how long does it take to 'master' an asana? When I was an initiate- I had to balance a saucer of water on my head for 30 mins and not spill a drop- do it for an hour and you have mastered it. Sounds to me like you are doing well.
I like the way you said you could feel the fire energy- what else did you feel? Oh and the anxiety- you have blocked chakras.
Reguards Yogi Bhajan- perhaps you should take him lightly? Why? Because after reading a few of his web pages- first thing I noticed is he asked for money. Second is that NOT ONCE - not once at all did he mention ENLIGHTENMENT/KCHGA. This tells me something Shamati- do you know what that is?
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Agree with Jim.
IMHO- in short. Achieve KCHGA first and then sex magick will come later. I have very good reason to say this, though I will not divulge the reasons now.
I also, would say that you have to raise the Kundalini proper first- through Illumination(KCHGA). Before, sex magick becomes a good tool.
I would support the abyss theory. Very much of MAAT is exploring the tunnels.
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Most Buddhists however, to my dismay, don't want to admit that these things and Magick have anything in common. "
How do they interpret it then? How does it have nothing in common for them?"
Yep you are sure right about that.
IMPO- I have witnessed many people actually treating Buddism as a religion. They are clearly not doing the work and have no chance at all(IMHO).
One thing I will say about Western Occultism is that you will actually find people who are truley focused, who are prepared to work hard, who actually study, actually practice, and who actually achieve KCHGA (or whatever words you give it).
In short the Buddists I have met a pussys
I read about the story of Buddah some time ago. And for me the similarities to my own story are outstanding, undeniably akin, Also I once read a similar story based on alchemy and the Knights of the round table- once again with outstanding similarities to my own experiences.
The long road of struggle, the challenges, the 'rest' period as the traveller/seeker got weary. the powerful reflection upon my own personal struggles whilst I seek, A strong sense of 'faith' that there is an end to this search, yet at the same time, at the last moment a strange feeling of doubt as one gets tired of searching. a vision of my life, the lessons the ups and downs. Continued experiences with 'the light', underground discoveries of light and more. Not to mention the vision of sorrow.
For myself the words are 'enlightenment' and 'illuminations'- yes KCHGA is also very relevant- just a different perspective. My intuition leads me to use the words enlightenment for some reason.
In terms of the abyss, similarities are found in the works of AC, Hindi art etc etc.
Absolutely Faust. You should notice many similarities between culteral magickal systems.
KCHGA is the Western version of the Buddist 'Enlightenment'.
Call me Culturally prejudiced if you like, however I feel that our system is the best. In Terms of having the path well mapped, with the most signposts.
I also beleive we are at the forefront of mapping the Tree of Death- a universally important work.
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Some years back the Auckland OTO wrote a book on the matter. Ever since I have been doing my LBR counter clockwise.
The god names are in the same order. Fire in the north because the sun is fire.
This does not effect the Thelemic temple as they are universal energies in contrast to planatary.
Excellent- didn't notice that
Another case for a better public mental health program
I once used one of thoses stools. But then I was convinced that I should 'go through ' the pain- never turned back.
Best to go through the pain, I hvae heard many excuses and all of them from people who will always be initiates.
the beneifts are tremondous.
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Patrick- I think you may have me there. I don't remember whether it was the word 'Vow' or 'Oath' that AC said.- just what difference is there?
I use the word 'Vow' as I considered it a 'vow' at the time. I was 21 years old at the time. I had just found my first magickal order and I took it very seriously.
I made a 'Vow' to never stop until I united with god head. It was not until, after much tiring effort, I was 31-32 years old when I achieved it. More and more, both at the time and now I look back and see that 'Vow' as a fundamental cornerstone to achieving it.Although there, as I have mentioned, other reasons.
Vows are very binding- it virtually cannot be broken.
Kat reminds me of my first occult work at 19, I too went on the dole.
I recommend it to serious seekers
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