College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

Stick to your 30min and increase your time slowly say by 5 min. Increments until you get your hour. No point or value being in agony, thats just one whole break. Good as an exercise in itself to see when the agony kicks in but not as a regular practice.

Apocalypse unsealed. Get a copy of that, worth a read. The bible as a whole should be part of your reading list

Astral blue pentagrams in the LBRP. I have always seen them red like fire and the hexagrams and column in a blue?? Interesting, I don't recall actually ever reading anywhere what colour they should be. Thanks for that comment.

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Thanks for your input Jim. After all these years and I honestly just noticed it. I can see how in a large room you could do that.
Much thanks. 93

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In magick the vi point on pg 618 of the 2008 version (and probably in others, I didn't check ) it says 'turning east, make a pentergram etc. ' this alludes one is facing a different direction for the cabalistic cross? Which direction? I know it maybe picky, I have honestly never noticed this before and have always faced east when doing the cabalistic cross and gone straight into the pentergrams. Any opinions points of view greatly welcomed. 93

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Great stuff

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Will these missing page scans be added anytime Jim ?
Thanks

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Thanks Jim, I'm onto it right now!!!

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Thank you, very interesting!! For some reason they just look more modern, kind techno if I may use the term. Okay, that has thrown a spin on my research. I am having a tough time on the robes, the equinox vol 1 has a bit, rich minds rites of eluisis a bit, but so far your book seems to have most data and is core of my research to date. Thanks again Jim. Now to hunt down copies of the regardie paper!!! (Puts on detectives cap again)

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I am researching the various robes, so I am seeking data. I understand the 'new' robes are a more modern interpretation and am just seeking the how they come about, who came up with the design and why. That's all. They are interesting and at first glance show stages on the travel up the tree so to speak and I find it interesting and any further data may/may not aid me in my research.

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Anyone? The equinox has no details to my question so hoping someone has an answer. Thanks in advance.

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I'd like to see the statement that Australia and shiva do not accept change. I have not seen this and in fact know the liber Al produced by aust caliphate has a blurb on the change etc. noting the change. unless you have evidence of this rejection, I'd love to see it and your source??? I personally do not accept the change as I took an oath etc blah blah and as well as the facts don't stack up for me but that's a personal thing.

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Where does it say shiva/ Australia doesn't accept change?

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Check out
https://azothart.com/product/aa-style-probationer-robe/

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Was just curious.

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I understand liber vesta is a different linage to the predominant one here, but anyone have any details on the book? It's origin, who painted/described the robes and where etc? I've looked through the vol of the equinox and there is no details that I saw. I know some called it the helloween edition etc but that's about all. Any details appreciated thanks in advance.

Thanks Jim. 93

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Was wondering if there is a complete list and prices of publications available via the college, in a few footnotes there is mention of publications available like on page 48 Tao the king. I'm interested in getting some material.
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I know that. After re-reading my post this evening it sounds a little arrogant and even maybe aggressive. Not my intension.

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The word of sin is restriction. All the material is available on the Internet or at many major libraries around the world, I still don't get why any group thinks any of the papers are secret as they are not but it is Jim's forum so his rules apply. It does loose it's effect a little or some of the surprise elements are very much lost if you know they are coming but I think it's up to each person to decide if they wish to read or not read before. I had copies (and many various versions) of all the man of earth rituals before I did them, I still "discovered" the secret of the sanctuary of the gnosis no problem (verified in more ways than one by many IX' s). I find it amusing to be honest that so many people in various groups are happy to publish and discuss masonic "secrets" yet complain when their own "secrets" are let out!! (Steps and signs in liber xv but please don't use your OTO ones in public as they are our secrets) Again I respect your wish not to have them on your forum Jim but that's about it to be honest. I think people are old enough to make the call if they should read or not read ritual before they do them.
Liber 77
Just not on the forum guys.

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