Tree of Life- Averse Reflection

Freya

This gives me food for thought........ Jim, when you mentioned angel of mars and the distortion of mercury ideas, I suddenly thought: would working with the corresponding planetary angel helps someone with an afflicted mercury or mars, someone who displays the destructive influences of Samael? Would this help or is it best left alone?

Jim Eshelman

Yes, that's one traditional approach.

Remember that "working with the angel" means starting with the Divine Name and working down. What you are doing, in effect, is taking ownership of the principle, identifying yourself more closely with it, etc.

Freya

Thank you Jim... do you believe that planetary angels have their corresponding planetary elementals, like a planetary fairy for example? I read this concept in a book, but I have never come across it before. It would make sense that above mirrors below, but maybe not with this one

Jim Eshelman

@Freya said

"Thank you Jim... do you believe that planetary angels have their corresponding planetary elementals, like a planetary fairy for example? I read this concept in a book, but I have never come across it before. It would make sense that above mirrors below, but maybe not with this one"

"Elementals" isn't the usual word. (It's correct in the dictionary sense, just not the usual magical sense.) Each of the planetary hierarchies has a Choir of Angels this is its primary Yetziratic expression. These can be directed solely on the authority of the God and Archangel, but technically the Angel stands at their head as the immediate emissary of the Archangel.

If you aren't familiar with this structure, you need to learn it before jumping in. I give all the tables, plus examples of different types of work, in 776 1/2, so you might want to check it out. (Other books also go through this, of course - those of Denning & Phillips are especially excellent.)

Freya

If i understand correctly, the god you mention is the head-god of the specific sphere, not god intended as the Godhead as such?
This principle would work also with the Qlipoth...

Freya

Has Da'at its equivalent in the qlipoth tree?

Jim Eshelman

@Freya said

"Has Da'at its equivalent in the qlipoth tree?"

Yes. There is a Golden Dawn speech that discusses the 10 s'fiyroth of the normal Tree in contrast to the 11 q'lippoth of the averse Tree.

Freya

Thank you Jim, do you know where I can read it? I would really like to know more about it. I also can't seem to find an angelic correspondence for da'at....

Jim Eshelman

@Freya said

"Thank you Jim, do you know where I can read it? I would really like to know more about it. I also can't seem to find an angelic correspondence for da'at...."

Read through the Golden Dawn rituals as published (e.g., in Regardie's books). I'd have to dig to remind myself exactly where it is. - It's only a flitting reference, must enough to give the visual representation.

EDIT - Ah, found it in a couple of minutes. It's in the 4=7 "Fall" speech. Here's the main passage.

"And because in DA'ATH was the utmost rise of the Great Serpent of Evil, therefore is there as it were, another Sephirah, making eight heads according to the number of the eight Kings. And for the Infernal and Averse Sephiroth, eleven instead of ten, according to the number of the Dukes of Edom. And hence were the Rivers of Eden desecrated, and from the mouth of the Dragon rushed the Infernal Waters in DA'ATH."

Freya

Thank you SO much!!!!