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Mem, Ayin and Nun

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    gerry456
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    Scorpio is martial? How so? Are certain zodiacal factors atttributed to particular planets?

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    http://www.social-engineer.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/you-cant-handle-the-truth-meme-generator-you-want-the-truth-you-can-t-handle-the-truth-9789dd.jpg

    Had to do it.

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    Mars is the planet that rules Scorpio. It also rules Aries and us exalted in Capricorn. These are the three primary expressions of Mars in the zodiac.

    PS These are the basics, the things one learns (for example) on page 1 of the first GD knowledge lecture of the entry level grade. I encourage you to commit turn to memiry.

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    @Jim Eshelman said

    "Mars is the planet that rules Scorpio. It also rules Aries and us exalted in Capricorn. These are the three primary expressions of Mars in the zodiac.

    PS These are the basics, the things one learns (for example) on page 1 of the first GD knowledge lecture of the entry level grade. I encourage you to commit turn to memiry."

    Here is the lecture;

    osogd.org/education/the-first-or-neophyte-knowledge-lecture

    No I can't see that here Jim. Anyway I understand this is basic astrology ie

    www.astro.com/mtp/mtp64_e.htm ; Planets in Exaltation, Detriment and Fall

    \i know nothing of astrology in terms of astronomical facts. Are you saying that the planets rule certain zodiacal segments because of their (the planets) course through those zodiacal segments in the night sky as it were? Does this have anything to do with real science?

    Also are Nun, Ayin, Tzaddi and Peh martial? Peh is attributed to the planet Mars and Nun scorpio is ruled by Mars and Tzaddi is ruled by Aries which is ruled by mars but Ayin is not ruled by Mars. I've heard that Ayin is martial because Mars is exalted in Capricorn. Is that correct? If that's the case then Lamed (Libra) is Saturnalian (even though it's ruled by Venus) as Saturn is exalted in Libra. Likewise Cheth is Jupiterean even though Cancer is of the Moon. Also , Taurus (Vav) is ruled by Venus but has the Moon exalted ...so on. Various paths have two or three planetary influences.

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    @gerry456 said

    "i know nothing of astrology in terms of astronomical facts. Are you saying that the planets rule certain zodiacal segments because of their (the planets) course through those zodiacal segments in the night sky as it were? Does this have anything to do with real science?"

    Planets rule certain signs because the nature of the planet and the nature of the sign are similar (or nearly identical).

    "Also are Nun, Ayin, Tzaddi and Peh martial?"

    Yes, Scorpio, Capricorn, Aries, and Mars are martial.

    "If that's the case then Lamed (Libra) is Saturnalian (even though it's ruled by Venus) as Saturn is exalted in Libra."

    Yes, the rulerships and exaltations are simply two different schemes that each identify planets whose natures are substantially the same as the signs. Libra is very much Venus + Saturn.

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    Libra is very much Venus + Saturn? Thanks but I'd say the function of Lamed is martial ie severity/adjustment. I don't see how it relates to Venus or Saturn.

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    @gerry456 said

    "Libra is very much Venus + Saturn? Thanks but I'd say the function of Lamed is martial ie severity/adjustment. I don't see how it relates to Venus or Saturn."

    Being questioning is good, but sometimes the best way to learn is with time and persistent study. Direct answers to non-practical things can detract the value of certain personal, spontaneous discoveries. The best thing is to accept the attributions as given and roll with them. With time (not even that much time) it'll all make (at least some) sense.

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    @gerry456 said

    "Libra is very much Venus + Saturn? Thanks but I'd say the function of Lamed is martial ie severity/adjustment. I don't see how it relates to Venus or Saturn."

    Think you not that Chronos eating his babies is not severity? Think you not that Solomon recommending the cutting in half the baby weren't just?

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    @Takamba said

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    @gerry456 said
    "Libra is very much Venus + Saturn? Thanks but I'd say the function of Lamed is martial ie severity/adjustment. I don't see how it relates to Venus or Saturn."

    Think you not that Chronos eating his babies is not severity? Think you not that Solomon recommending the cutting in half the baby weren't just?"

    Justice is a severe (Saturnine) form of love (Venus). The "goad" of Lamed keeps the Ox between the ditches.

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    @Sardonyx said

    "Justice is a severe (Saturnine) form of love (Venus). The "goad" of Lamed keeps the Ox between the ditches."

    @Patrick Ossoski said

    "sometimes the best way to learn is with time and persistent study. Direct answers to non-practical things can detract the value of certain personal, spontaneous discoveries."

    Sometimes the shock of revelation is required.

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