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    RAW is such a prankster. B. This exercise contains thirteen propositions. C. All propositions in this exercise are false. G. Proposition B is false. H. Proposition G is false.
  • Ch. 22 Hidden Variables & The Invisible World (6/29-7/5)

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  • Ch. 20 Star Makers? (6/15-6/21)

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    I've been trying to come up with a response to this chapter. I've struggled to understand this chapter in the past, and while I appreciate RAW's explanation of Bell's theorem, I never quite feel like I understand what he's getting at. That being said, please tell me if you disagree, as I might still be misunderstanding. After having sat on it, RAW seems to be getting at the idea that particles in the Quantum Realm do not "contain" their function physically. In other words, a scientist cannot seem to physically find anything intrinsic or physical that points to a particle's purpose. Nonetheless, when we look at the Universe, since we can only perceive the Universe from the reality tunnel of humankind, the Universe appears to be generated for humankind. This can be used as evidence for the existence of a Creator, or can be evidence that our measuring instruments have a bias towards human understanding (having been made by humans). I suppose this chapter can be that simple, but I still feel like I'm missing something. One of RAW's most famous aphorisms is that he doesn't believe anything but has some suspicions. I think this chapter really embodies that. He seems to present some theories about how Bell's theorem affects our understanding of the Universe, but then seemingly refutes those same understandings. His goal for the chapter seems to be that both a "Creator" of reality and a "Created" reality (by humans and their Understanding) can be equally valid points of view since we cannot prove one or the other. Personally, I am happy to believe in a "Creator" since the amount of complexity in the Universe seems to be well beyond what I believe myself to be capable of processing (though I tend to hold the same opinion as that of Vodou, that if there "is" a Creator, the Creator "is" too far removed from the world to intervene). It can be easy for me to fixate on the idea that everything we can understand "is" still solipsistic to some degree. It can be easy to assume that our instruments have forced us to conceptualize reality in a particular way (that comes with its own limitations) and that we cannot actually "know" the Universe. I think this can be seen as a basis for Nihilism, and even further, an entryway for Choronzon. I also think that this can be taken as a "Bad Faith" approach to the Universe that closes an individual off from the Hermetic virtues of Thauma & Eusebeia. It can be easier for me to access Thauma and Eusebeia when I take the approach that a Creator "made" the Universe. This seems loosely related to Pronoia, or the suspicion that the Universe "is" secretly conspiring to help and support you (AKA the Good Faith approach to the Universe). Because there appears to be Order in the Universe, and that Order seems to be accessible by humankind, it could almost seem like the Universe was "made" for us to understand it. Since Bell's Theorem argues that there "is" no intrinsic instruction in any given thing, reality can be more multiple choice than we realize. The piece that sticks out to me (that I don't feel I'm understanding properly) is when he talks about particles that have contacted each other being correlated and therefore connected to each other. Part of my confusion is that it seems like a given, since a significant correlation inherently means that there "is" a connection (though it doesn't mean causation). He likens it to Shamanic Magick while also saying that it "is not" like Shamanic Magick, since Shamanic Magick implies some kind of causation. He makes the claim that this non-locality "is" weirder than Magick. I disagree. I'm not entirely sure what RAW wants to point to when he makes this claim. I disagree that Magick requires a causative principle. I also disagree with his claim that synchronicity "is" accepted by most Jungians and psychologists. Most of the Jungians I encounter like to hide from synchronicity (since it tends to be held as one Jung's crazier ideas that the hard sciences make fun of) and most psychologists will diagnose you with schizophrenia or apophenia (assuming they know the word apophenia) if you tell them about the synchronicities you experience. What I think RAW tries to point to in this chapter "is" Chaos Theory. Chaos Theory argues that in a system that has achieved a certain level of complexity, the basic rules that the system initially followed no longer guarantee the outcomes that the rules once promised. Instead, when the system achieves this level of complexity, seemingly insignificant actions might have much more impact than anything that the rules try to enforce. To use a basic example, let's say someone wants to start a music career. In the past, the "rules" of the music industry said that you start a band, write some songs, record a demo, play enough shows to get exposure, and then achieve a record contract that pays a professional salary. Since there are so many people trying to do this same thing at once (be a professional musician), these "rules" no longer create an obvious pathway towards that goal. Instead, something as simple as a Tik Tok post or telling the right person may lead a band to stardom, even if they suck and don't have the same level of investment that other bands do. A well timed, seemingly insignificant social media post held more weight in that scenario than following the traditional pipeline. Chaos Theory helps explain why no two people can follow the same exact orbit as they enact their True Will in the Universe. It does not matter if you believe your True Will to be identical to someone else’s. Your orbit will inherently follow a different path than those before since that path becomes more complex and refined with each pass. It also helps explain why synchronicity can be a "real" thing. Chaos Theory does not argue that everything "is" chaos, but rather that what appears to be chaotic on the surface masks a hidden Order to things, an Order that no longer follows traditional rules to achieve your goal. Hence why people who follow the rules too much seem to miss the point of anything haha. Instead, if you can follow the "golden thread" of synchronicity, you can connect seemingly disconnected events that culminate in a seemingly random accomplishment when measured against the traditional rules of the system. This "is" a foundational idea of Chaos Magick. To go back to RAW, I hesitate to find significance in his example of the person changing socks in one country and the other changing socks in another country at the same. Statistically speaking, changing socks "is" such a common action amongst the billions of people in the world that it seems statistically impossible for people not to change socks at the same time. This "is" where correlation does not mean causation. In all my psychology classes, they hammered that into my head. You can take any variables you want to test a connection between and attempt to statistically measure the significance of the correlation. Without plugging any data into statistics software, the socks example does not seem like a significant enough correlation to me that I would think it relevant (much less something we can generalize data from). I also don't believe that what RAW says about Magick requiring a causative principle. Certainly, a magician would love to believe the illusion that by doing said ritual we cause the Universe to change and enact our Will. However, in the same way that the Universe can appear to be created by God or seemingly random, the number of variables in any given Magickal working makes me skeptical to claim that a Magickal ritual does in fact cause change. Instead, assuming we are referring to the purely physical causative side of Magick (and, if it’s possible, ignoring the mental aspects that can’t be measured) I think Magickal ritual can help us identify those golden threads of synchronicity that allow us to string together seemingly disconnected events into substantial changes. Whether one believes my theory or the theory that Magick causes change, the outcome "is" the same (the relative success of the working). When Magick "is" more successful, I believe we have successfully leveraged one of those points in the Chaotic system whose impact weighs more than any given cause or rule. Given that magicians already believe that everything "is" hyper connected (beyond even our comprehension) and that the Universe can be likened to one giant body and/or mind (though he “is” not writing for that audience), it only makes sense that things couldn't be a domino effect. Instead, I prefer to look at it as a body achieving homeostasis. If one part of the overall body/mind changes, then the rest must change in order to find a new center of homeostasis (not unlike the Pantheists and the Panentheists). In a simpler system, this might appear as one wave that causes change across the Divine Mind like the domino effect. But considering changes occur all over the Divine Mind all the time, this appears overly simplistic. Instead, I think that multiple waves occur all the time and depending on whether these waves harmonize with each other or not, the waves can become turbulent and stormy, or they can become modulated and rhythmic. The level of Unity expressed by this Divine Mind seems to be a measurement of the relative turbulence Vs. rhythmic modulation at any given moment. When things appear more rhythmic and modulated, they appear more isomorphic and more easily predictable. The modulation creates a predictable structure that the human mind perceives as order. Needless to say, I think what RAW brings up “are” non-issues. Perhaps this “is” why I’m not one of the scientists out there debating these things. I “am” reminded that Academics come up with all kinds of strange ramifications and justifications for any given Academic doctrine and/or dogma. Academics become just as blind to reality as the average Bible thumper, it’s just that Academia becomes an Academic’s Bible to thump. Perhaps RAW would’ve agreed with my perspective. Perhaps he would’ve laughed at my perspective. He most definitely would’ve responded to everything I’ve said with a big fat, “Maybe!” Perhaps my reactions to this chapter are precisely what RAW wanted to trigger with his agnosticism hahaha I have no regrets if that "is" the case, since this forced me to write out a bunch of ideas in this essay of a response hahaha
  • Is music beneficial for meditation or prayer

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    There are varied points of view. In the very beginning steps, it is best to clear all crutches and distractions, attempting to sit with oneself. As the practice develops and as skill increases, more tools and interests can be employed and explored. "Keep It Simple Stupid" is what I have to remind myself of. Music can absolutely be a form of prayer—Native Americans, some forms of Buddhism, some forms of Christianity all adhere to this thinking.
  • Gnostic Christian wants to understand Thelema better

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    You do not run a marathon with no conditioning. Basics before miracles. Right relation to Self makes everything else more clear.
  • Recommended by a friend

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    @modeish Welcome! We can add you to our Healing List if you'd like. If you would like us add you please let us know and for how long - typically people ask for a time period of 1-3 months. You can send an email to harporcrates@thelema.org with the information if you wish.
  • Ch. 19 Multiple Universes

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    "One cannot help being struck by the fact that according to Freudian, Jungian and Gestalt methods of dream interpretation, these alternative selves, some of them bringing alternative universes with them, manifest every night in our sleep. Some physicists describe the other universes and other selves as "virtual", but does that not also describe our dreams? And does it not appear that virtual selves and virtual realities have infiltrated both psychology and physics because, as this book claims, all sufficiently advanced analysis must eventually abandon Aristotelian certitude and accept models - reality tunnels - based on probabilities?" (page 165). This is the basis of true Chaos Magick, as I understand it. It's no wonder RAW is held so highly amongst Chaotes haha All possibilities exist concurrently at all times with varying degrees of probabilities. Choice collapses all possibilities into the reality that manifests on the material plane. I notice that certain mood states are more expansive and open the realm of possibilities more than other mood states that collapse the range of possibilities. I find that holding as many possibilities as possible (usually only 5 to 7 possibilities if I'm lucky) and acting on the one that seems to be the best choice of action without collapsing or feeling overwhelmed by the range of possibilities can be really difficult. Even as someone who believes RAW's statement to be relatively true, my own Ego still loves to assert that my Ego "is" only one confined, rigid set of behaviors. It consistently fails to acknowledge it's full range of motion so that it can ignore and hide from responsibility. I also suspect that other people may experience a similar struggle and that I "am not" unique for experiencing this. Depending on your point of view, I could be extremely lucky or extremely disadvantaged for conceptualizing the self in such a way. Evolutionary Psychology and Cognitive Behavior Psychology tell me that holding more possibilities at once to influence decision making and then further refining and reflecting on those same decisions, is Meta Cognition and part of what has allowed us to become the beings we "are". Cognitive Behavior Psychology will also tell you that humans are not as good at Meta Cognizing as they think they "are", and that Meta Cognition "is" discouraged because we cannot be unbiased towards ourselves. Alas, I've found myself back in the realm of Solipsism (just like RAW has pointed out time and again in this book). It's amazing that we "are" only capable of experiencing our own reality tunnel, no more or no less, at any given time. Sometimes, it seems as if we can peer into other people's reality tunnels, but that raises another question. "Are" we truly peering into their reality tunnel or "are" we still just experiencing our own reality tunnel? I suppose that when we erroneously believe we "are" experiencing someone else's reality tunnel, our distortion of their reality tunnel "is" the act of projection. Theoretically, some reality tunnels align with mine, creating a Venn Diagram of sorts with a Vesica Piscis in the center of the overlapping reality tunnels (envisioned by the circles of the Venn Diagram). The Vesica Piscis contains the shared sliver of space-time where the two reality tunnels affirm each other's point of view. Chaos Magick also argues that "Nothing is true, everything is permissible," (or in E-Prime, "Nothing seems true, everything seems permissible). RAW asked earlier in the book how many people does it take to affirm something before it "is" true? Two? Three? Four people? If I have someone else who affirms my reality tunnel and we can identify what occupies that Vesica shaped shared space, does that make us true? 50,000,000 Elvis fans can't be wrong, right?
  • Tarot Cards

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    Hi Bob! Welcome to the journey. To answer your first question: Yes, the Waite-Colman deck is the exact same as the Rider-Waite deck (often called Rider-Waite-Smith or RWS to rightly credit the artist, Pamela Colman Smith). Since your primary interest is Kabbalah, both decks are highly relevant, but Aleister Crowley's Thoth deck is explicitly and deeply coded with Hermetic Qabalah, Hebrew letters, and the Tree of Life pathways. The RWS has these elements too, but they are more hidden behind pictorial scenes. As for buying new vs. used, it's a personal preference. If you buy a used or mass-produced deck, you can make it 'yours' simply by cleansing it (passing it through sage smoke, leaving it under moonlight, or just sleeping with it under your pillow to bond with its energy). It's wonderful that you are using Tarot for structural life-mapping rather than just fortune-telling. Many people do the exact same thing when trying to map out their paths or find your love through personal destiny matrix chart studies, which also bridges the 22 Major Arcana with personal birth grids to understand life lessons and spiritual blueprints.
  • MNE THELEMA

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    We do not have a footprint in Europe. There are definitely some Serbians doing Thelema. I know that Serbia is a different place, but a lot closer than LA.
  • Ch. 13 E and E-Prime (4/27-5/3)

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    @Hannah I have this experience often too. It reminds me about how a few years ago, there were all of these articles about how younger generations aren't doing very well at argumentative essay writing in academia because they often don't want to pick a side or argue an opinion. I remember reading these articles and thinking that was a silly complaint to make since there's also a big push within academia to see both sides and become well rounded. I am also reminded that the devil is in the details haha. I tend to remain quiet since I disarm my own speech before it has even surfaced, but I appreciate that you emphasized listening to the Will. I have found that situations where I feel that I have acted and spoken authentically can easily lose their clarity and certainty after the fact when the Will gets ignored. I will have to continue to think about that.
  • Can a Black Brother stop being one at some point?

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    Presented with options, we turn away from the Divine every day in large ways and small ways, in conscious ways and unconscious ways. Accumulatively, if the choice is to errantly associate gratification of the “self” with Truth, the path tends toward “Black.” Rectifications of direction—intent—are entirely feasible where the Right Relationship with Self is established and the path corrected. The weight of change, tendency, habits, baseness—is a lot to overcome. If there were an “Ultimate Choice,” to be a “Black Brother,” I am not sure how it could/would be unmade. If it could be unmade, it was never the true choice.
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    @jjones I once took a medical anthropology course and we explored a lot about how sick people have been received by different cultures, spoiler alert, not well! Oftentimes they are naturally isolated and perceived as being in judgement for some kind of sin. I think part of this reaction is adaptive to prevent spreading infection... yes, totally Nepheshic. Today we know much more about particular kinds of illnesses, which is transmissible and so on... yet still people with chronic illnesses with no chance of spread are still isolated and stigmatized.
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    @jjones thank you so much for making this post! We went camping and I dropped the ball. Your response makes sense (I didn't read the chapter). I think different parts of ourself are naturally drawn out by different environments and relationships, and this is very healthy. I think it brings to mind the flexibility of our persona as a mask, we can try on different masks to suit our environment, but ultimately we are not one mask entirely.
  • What is the True Will of a psychopath?

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    It's impossible to say what any psychopath's True Will might be. I feel the True Will is individual. For example, it's not uncommon for people to think they want or need something, and then work at achieving, obtaining, or manifesting it. But in reality, this desire or need, or the drive to achieve, obtain, or manifest it, came from another person connected to them. Then, this was not the person's True Will. Other than the obvious divergent wiring, I don't see how a psychopath is any different from any other, regarding their True Will. Unless I've misunderstood.
  • The holy ring mentioned in The Vision & The Voice

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  • Jungian dream analysis

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    I saw a short video how in Hinduism there is a teaching that the last thing you think when you die determines how you will reincarnate. Then he said that sleeping is a rehearsal for death, so that every night before you go to sleep to mind your thoughts. I didn’t get what he recommended what you think. I decided to think about all the love I have not only with my partner; but everyone, all my friends, and all my temple members. This was a wonderful practice I will continue.
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    @zeph that is fair but.. viewing one's circumstance as "fortunate" as in the case of a debilitating chronic disease does not make the disease magically disappear. And because the disease doesn't disappear, doesn't mean that person hasn't changed their mindset enough to return to health. People under oppression of body, mind, and society, can choose to grow stronger as a result of their experience, but just because they are experiencing misfortune (in the objective case of literal oppression) does not mean they are responsible for it in their mind. I personally have a gripe about this interpretation that a lot of religions have that misfortune=punishment.
  • Ch. 16 Moon of Ice (5/18-5/24)

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    @Hannah This seems even more pertinent given how much we've watched society swing from one side of the polarity to the other over the past decades. Perhaps this statement highlights the significance of learning from the past so that we do not recreate the reality tunnels that put humanity backwards rather than forwards. It certainly feels as if we have taken two steps forward and one step back with how the world stage keeps unfolding.
  • Understanding The Book of the Law

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    Find our copy here: https://thelema.org/aa/bookofthelaw