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College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

  • Understanding The Book of the Law

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    Find our copy here: https://thelema.org/aa/bookofthelaw
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    @jjones Yes, definitely!
  • MNE THELEMA

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  • Ch. 15 Psychosomatic Synergy (5/11-5/17)

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  • Ch. 13 E and E-Prime (4/27-5/3)

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    @Hannah What a relief that I'm not alone in this experience :') The mutability of it all is definitely trickster vibes. I often find I don't want to respond to things knowing that whatever I might say right now will probably change in the near future. So I tend to rely on structural statements rather than statements of opinion (though I still tend to be highly opinionated ). This has led me to largely experience socializing as comparing opinions, and few in the mundane sphere care about structurally sound statements haha. I often fear I come off boring or overly safe. The people who are aware of the non rational tend to be the people who find value in the way I interact, but I admit it makes it difficult for me to have surface level conversation, even when that's what the situation calls for. I'm curious how this has affected you socially? After this experience, I found it difficult to talk about anything I didn't have personal experience of. I also became hyper aware that whatever experience I have, other people have a completely different experience and set of circumstances they're working with, and bridging that gap is the miracle of communication. Nowadays, I find myself pretty introverted (partly as a means of defense in regards to projections and partly because communication became more difficult as I realized how many different ways it can go wrong) and sometimes wish I was more talkative like I used to be. Realizing that the world runs on projections, I find it difficult to identify with anything anymore (since my inner voice says "That's just a projection!"). I also find it difficult to take people too seriously (perhaps because I couldn't take myself so seriously anymore). Nonetheless, the social skills I've used in the past no longer seem to work, having realized that most of the skills I used were built from projections that no longer benefit anyone. Although everyone "is" unique, Uniqueness only has value in relation to something else. Because of this, I find it difficult to assert uniqueness in and of itself. However, it seems asserting uniqueness motivates a lot of attention seeking behavior that creates social situations in my life.
  • Ritual Construction for Housing

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    Also, I used an invocation from the Book of the Goddess: https://sacred-texts.com/wmn/bog/index.htm
  • ANNOUNCING: Pearls of Wisdom

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    This is on eBay
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    @Hannah For sure! Research in developmental psychology indicates that children typically develop the ability to understand outside perspectives around the age of 10. Prior to this age, children tend to concentrate primarily on themselves as they are in the process of becoming familiar with their own bodies and developing self-awareness. Around age 10, children generally begin to grasp concepts of independence, moral reasoning, and social integration. I think about how there are so many opportunities to disrupt development before the age of 10. It is no wonder so few people seem prepared to enter the world, given that so much psycho-spiritual "dirt" can accumulate before we are even aware that we are in the thick of it all!
  • What Are You Reading?

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    Staring at my latest purchase, "Sarah the Priestess" by Savina J. Teubal but haven't actually opened it yet. It seems like it's going to be amazing!
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    @Hannah & @Because0 It's not unlike LLMs. I'm no expert on AI, but it strings together combinations of words that seem statistically likely to produce the intended meaning. Meanwhile, AI does not have a sensory apparatus to interact with material existence. So when AI says water... what is it talking about? I mean, sure, we can infer that it is talking about that substance that chemists designate as H2O, but it cannot actually experience what we mean by that word, "water." I'm sure y'all have experienced the word salad of AI slop, so this might seem somewhat obvious haha but it's perhaps a more extreme tangent to what RAW is getting at. It's crazy to think about how much of the world operates (without even considering AI) on people who talk about things they have never experienced. I mean, I encounter so many people who talk with certainty about knowing things they admit to have never met face to face, yet they make all kinds of decisions as if they were trained in such encounters. It's a bit of a miracle anything gets done at all
  • 93 hello to everyone.

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    Welcome Because0! I'm sure different practioners would classify their path in different ways within the umbrella of Thelema. ToT as an Order does tend towards an emphasis toward that which is "higher" and "inner" and in that sense shares some of the characteristics of what some may define as RHP. Thelemic practioners generally vary widely in how they would characterize themselves, but that is part of the essence of Thelema being highly individual in many senses.
  • hello 🙂

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    Welcome Danielle!
  • Experience with "strange drugs"

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  • The Labyrinth from Above 001: The Stars of Ancient Ur

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    @d.b.stone Haha I appreciate your flattery! I'd hardly measure my intellectual wanderings as sophisticated, nonetheless, I will not tell you that you're wrong As far as defining Magick goes, I generally point to Crowley's definition: "the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will". Volumes upon volumes have been written by others much smarter than me about what that might mean. For simplicity, I will specify that I am referring to a process of applying symbolic knowledge to subconscious patterning in order to align multiple levels of being. With these levels acting in alignment, there are more powers available to the individual to realize their goal. Given that Consciousness/Divinity/Source/Orgone/Astral Light (etc.) requires some type of symbol to interface and interact with the practitioner, Crowley's definition could be interpreted as the Art of manipulating Symbols to induce a change in Consciousness. Ideally, these changes in Consciousness have a greater purpose (perhaps attaining the Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel) that they are working towards. I must say it is quite impressive that you met Motta, as well as have written 10,000 pages on such a subject. Assuming that we are referring to the same idea when I say Magick and you say M, I must say that I am jealous of such an accomplishment. I have not been so lucky to find the time to write 10,000 pages. That being said, I must apologize. I'm not sure if I am the intended audience, simply because I am not of the level of Motta, and I do not have enough free time to give your work the attention it needs. Nonetheless, these sound like valuable ideas, and I am intrigued. You seem well read, and I appreciate that you've put so much thought into your ideas. As I'm sure you know, there's an abundance of half-baked on the internet and finding someone who is genuinely interested in discussing these subjects can be quite difficult. I think Crowley would agree that the goal of spiritually enlightened beings should be to liberate the rest of the species. Crowley pretty explicitly claims that the Law is for All. He's also written an essay called "Duty" that expresses Crowley's vision on how to realize a Thelemic society. One of my personal favorites is De Lege Libellum, in which Crowley describes the four core Thelemic values. In my opinion, if someone truly takes this paper to heart, then they are actively working for the greater good of the human race. For clarification, I'm not sure that I use Bennett-Crowley Qabalah either. I suppose that a more accurate description would be Crowley-Eshelman Qabalah. I primarily reference Jim Eshelman's writings (specifically 776 1/2) for Qabalistic information. I will admit that because Eshelman built off what Crowley wrote, perhaps Bennett (I assume Alan Bennett) is linked to this. However, Jim has done excellent work to clarify and strengthen 776 1/2's dialect of Qabalah. It is certainly not what Crowley was using in his day Even in the Qabalah, the primary doctrine is that of marrying the Daughter to the Son so that they can become the Queen and the King. The Daughter is often used as a term to describe the material world. Earlier Kabbalistic doctrine said that the Daughter was in exile, must be redeemed, and that the messiah will not come until that very Daughter is redeemed. This doctrine seems to imply that "saving the world" is the goal of it all, though we certainly can't do it on our own. Instead, I view the "messiah" as the world consciousness that will arise from a society in right relation with Nature and the Divine. Furthermore, Nuit states that it is our duty to conquer the Hierophantic task as that will heal the world (verses 50-53 of Chapter 1). Sounds like we're in pretty strong agreement with each other!
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    @jjones same!!
  • d.b.stone

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    Thank you for your kind reception. All four books have free samples with over 100 pages of text, so you can get an idea of what they’re like without committing your money. If you go to lulu.com and click "Bookstore" at the top center, then searching for "D. B. Stone" will bring up all my books. They won't appear at first--you have to select "Show explicit content" on the lower left-hand side of the page showing the book listings after your search returns some books. Once the books show up, sorting by "Newest" at the top right-hand part of the page should bring up the free samples on top. I'd welcome your feedback, even if it's negative. Thank you! Best, D. B. Stone
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    In a previous forum post, I mentioned Alfred Korzybski and Semantic Reactions. Expanding on my earlier post seems to be the most fitting response to this chapter on my part. Alfred Korzybski founded the field of General Semantics. He is notable for a book, Science and Sanity published in 1933. Korzybski sought to expand our understanding of semantics beyond our internal mechanisms of meaning making and interpretation. He focused primarily on how we react to language and symbol in our environment, including our moment-to-moment interactions with other humans in conversation. One of Korzybski's key concepts was Semantic Reaction. Semantic Reactions are whole-organism responses to a symbol. Rather than the denotative definition, this is the feeling one develops in response to a symbol. Whereas connotative meanings tend to be cultural and sociological, Semantic Reactions are the individual's physiological responses to a symbol based on the individual's psychology. A great example of this is the word, "Socialism." Oxford Languages defines Socialism as, "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." That definition sounds pretty cool (assuming we're living in an ideal society), right? As many already know, when you use the word, "Socialism," around different people, there is a wide diversity of responses. Some people may say that Socialism is positive and that they aspire to live in a society where Socialism makes up the structure of that civilization. Others may say that Socialism is a dirty word and react as if they smelled something foul. A third group may not have any internal experience of the word, finding it to be nothing more than a string of letters. The range of feelings associated with the word are Semantic Reactions. Korzybski believed this occurs because information processing is not a neutral mechanism. Instead, our nervous system responds to symbols based on prior conditioning, memory, fear, desire, prejudice, anxieties, etc. This may not seem like a new idea now but considering how many people ignore the importance of word choice in our daily lives, it's not hard to believe how revolutionary this idea seemed in 1933. Korzybski argued that Semantic Reactions form when we confuse the symbol for the reality it is describing. In fact, Korzybski is the one who coined the phrase, "The map is not the territory," which RAW uses as a primary thesis of Quantum Psychology. When we use language, we create an abstraction out of some "referent," the actual object we are trying to refer to. Sometimes, people speak as if the reality of the referent is smaller than the abstraction or word used to refer to the referent. To go back to my earlier example, when some people use the word, "Socialism," they do not seem to be responding to the definition of the word. Instead, they respond to what they've been told about the word. Most people in the United States have not experienced a socialist government. Yet, those who respond to the word with disgust tend to be certain that Socialism is a bad word not even worthy of contemplation (much less education on its meaning), and those who respond with pleasure tend to be certain about that a socialist government's merits and values overshadow the fact that we do not live in an ideal society where people are 100% good. I would argue that the term, "Buzzword," refers to this idea of Semantic Reactions when the reactions are positive, pleasurable, and/or addictive. People use Buzzwords, or specialized terms, to assert authority and/or impress those around them. These words often become trendy and experience an increase in usage not because of what they mean, but rather because of the Semantic Reactions they elicit in others. People mimic others, spreading Buzzwords like Social Contagion, until their nervous system is attenuated to that Semantic Reaction. When attenuation occurs, the Semantic Reaction loses its novelty or thrill, much the same way a drug addict develops a tolerance. Then the Buzzword fades away as people no longer use that term. Semantic Reactions can be even more subtle. For example, when I catch someone in a "lie," my natural reaction is to label that person a liar. Liar is a negative category in my mind, and makes me feel very distrustful, sometimes even angry at the person labelled "liar." But suppose this person spoke in Good Faith, unaware that I labelled them a liar? Perhaps their information is simply skewed or ill-informed and they are unaware. Depending on how they presented their information to me, I might be in the wrong for projecting the label, "liar," onto them. The person may have spoken in a way that made me feel as if they were a liar. Since "Liar" is a bad word, my anger and distrust are a reaction to the meaning I've projected onto the word "Liar." If this is the case, then my reaction is maladaptive and unfounded. Being able to perform maintenance on our Semantic Reactions was one of Korzybski's calls to action. In future chapters of Quantum Psychology, RAW presents a formulation of the English language that, when internalized, provides a means of recognizing our Semantic Reactions. However, certain Buddhist exercises also seek to accomplish this as well. When one becomes aware of Semantic Reactions, communication becomes more miraculous. At a certain stage of my own path, I became acutely aware that people were not actually listening to the words I was saying. Instead, people were listening to the Semantic Reactions they formed from their own associations with words. I discovered that often, others and I were not actually communicating with each other. Instead, we were essentially responding to whatever words we liked and didn't like completely independent of the actual messages we were trying to communicate. This led me down a rabbit hole that made me wonder how much of my speech and others was truly understood, and how much of it was simply forced into the conditioned responses to the words myself and others were using. This will, of course, drive someone insane because we can never know the depth of such a phenomenon. I suspect that people with more knowledge and care about their words are perhaps more likely to understand me than those who believe words are unimportant. Considering there are people in positions of power that are unaware of these ideas, it's a bit of miracle that communication and social cohesion exist at the scale that they do. In response to the specific chapter we read, RAW seems to be emphasizing institutions like the FCC are policing what is considered acceptable language by forcing other people to agree with their Semantic Reactions. Given the nature of American culture, it is likely that these Semantic Reactions are particularly puritanical. The 7 Forbidden Words are a particularly useful example in showing how groups can enforce Semantic Reactions. With a large group to enforce Semantic Reactions, it is not hard to see why RAW believes many in our modern society operate and cogitate similarly to those from Medieval England. Semantic Reactions are perhaps one of the best explanations for what the occultist can mean when referring to “spirits,” as they are one of many unseen forces that affect individuals as well as groups.
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    Perfectly understandable! Sure thing!
  • Ch. 8 Quantum Logic (3/23-3/29)

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    @Hannah Fascinating! I had not heard of that term before. In response to your last question, there are languages that are built without Aristotelian logic. Without giving away too many spoilers, RAW presents a form of the English language that prevents Aristotelian logic in future chapters of the book. However, I am currently also listening to a seminar on Non Violent Communication where Marshall Rosenberg (the creator of the Non Violent Communication modality) mentions encountering a tribal people who do not use language to classify people, instead focusing on needs. He says that rather than calling people selfish, their custom would be to ask what needs aren't being met that are causing this person to act in a way we call selfish. This is similar to Non Aristotelian thinking in that it doesn't identify people as static categories. More abstractly, I think the Qabalah is a language that doesn't rely on Aristotelian thinking. People who try to make it rely on Aristotelian thinking (those folks who say each symbol only has one correct meaning at the expense of everything else that symbol means) don't seem to be 'doing' Qabalah correctly. For example, the Hebrew letters and words have multiple meanings and cannot be classified in a binary. In my opinion, at its essence, Non-Aristotelian thinking is a Non Rational process that seeks to perceive the gradation between opposites. This inherently requires one to unify a few opposites before they can see what is meant (i.e. that A and B also have C in between the two terms, etc.) and this means being allowed to sit with Uncertainty until the Cognitive Dissonance collapses and reveals their connection. However, once one grasps the process of unifying opposites, I would hope that it would get easier and easier to sit with the opposites. The ideas RAW presents in this book are not necessarily original. RAW has stated that he got most of the ideas from Alfred Korzybski, a linguist that eventually was deemed a pseudo-scientist. Korzybski believed that most people, when they believe they are communicating with each other, are actually reacting to Semantic Reactions. I don't intend to be crass, but you know how certain people get really, really upset when you use the word socialism or talk about social welfare? Well, the knee jerk response to the word, "Socialism," is precisely what Korzybski was referring to. The people who react that way are not actually offended by the word, "Socialism," and don't actually seem to know what that word really means. Instead, they are reacting to a meaning that has been associated with that word, triggering a maladaptive response. Korzybski said that the best thing we can do to overcome this is to only speak, "facts," which he has a technical definition for. The way we do that is very similar to what RAW presents in future chapters. RAW is the most accessible manual of Korzybski's linguistics that I have found. So I hope this gets you excited for the chapter of the book when we learn about "E-Prime"!
  • Greets and 93s

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    Welcome, Chris!