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Liber Al beyond good and evil?

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    gerry456
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    Behold! the rituals of the old time are black. Let the evil ones be cast away; let the good ones be purged by the prophet!

    You and I know that "evil" doesn't exist in reality or Nature, it's a Greek xtian dualistic concept which only perpetuates the shadow and ironically enough, perpetuates more "evil" thereby. What about the use of the word "evil" in the context as used by Nuit above?

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      Behold! the rituals of the old time are black. Let the evil ones be cast away; let the good ones be purged by the prophet!

      You and I know that "evil" doesn't exist in reality or Nature, it's a Greek xtian dualistic concept which only perpetuates the shadow and ironically enough, perpetuates more "evil" thereby. What about the use of the word "evil" in the context as used by Nuit above?

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      Takamba
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      The etymology of the word "evil" takes us to ancient Germanic languages and relates more to "twisted and disapproved of" than any moral context (which came much later as a meaning to the word). Your assumption that 'evil' has a spiritual or moral flavor is just that, your assumption.

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        Behold! the rituals of the old time are black. Let the evil ones be cast away; let the good ones be purged by the prophet!

        You and I know that "evil" doesn't exist in reality or Nature, it's a Greek xtian dualistic concept which only perpetuates the shadow and ironically enough, perpetuates more "evil" thereby. What about the use of the word "evil" in the context as used by Nuit above?

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        Saeptus
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        Good and evil are in the eye of the beholder. Ask AL what he meant based on his view of "Knowledge"...

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          Behold! the rituals of the old time are black. Let the evil ones be cast away; let the good ones be purged by the prophet!

          You and I know that "evil" doesn't exist in reality or Nature, it's a Greek xtian dualistic concept which only perpetuates the shadow and ironically enough, perpetuates more "evil" thereby. What about the use of the word "evil" in the context as used by Nuit above?

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          gerry456
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          I meant Hadit not Nuit.

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            Behold! the rituals of the old time are black. Let the evil ones be cast away; let the good ones be purged by the prophet!

            You and I know that "evil" doesn't exist in reality or Nature, it's a Greek xtian dualistic concept which only perpetuates the shadow and ironically enough, perpetuates more "evil" thereby. What about the use of the word "evil" in the context as used by Nuit above?

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            Jim Eshelman
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            I think the use of "evil" here is purely pragmatic. Sure, "evil" doesn't exist, those polarities don't exist, but Aiwass had a concept to communicate and these words did the job.

            AC is being given specific instructions about the New Order. The essential information here is that some of the existing rituals are “good” and some are to be “purged” (revised to conform to the new teachings); some are “evil” and are to be dropped. “Black” cannot mean “evil,” since all of the old rituals are “black,” but some are “good” and some “evil.” I think “black” primarily mans “Osirian,” since “Osiris is a black god.” In any case, the wording suggests that they are incapable of reflecting light to their witnesses.

            The etymology of "evil" is interesting - this is a Germanic word, not one from the Mediterranean languages. At root, it just expresses dislike and disapproval. (OED calls it "the most comprehensive adjectival expression of disapproval, dislike or disparagement.") Another etymologist observes, "Evil was the word the Anglo-Saxons used where we would use bad, cruel, unskillful, defective..." (adj.), or harm, crime, misfortune, disease (n.). The concept of "morally wicked" didn't attach to the English word until relatively late, the 1700s.

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